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  • 1.  Project Management and CRM software for Architects

    Posted 03-03-2025 03:22 PM

    I wonder if there has been a post on this topic before, but I am not seeing one going back for about a year to 18 months.  I am looking for input on options for software for architects that combines financial, project management, and CRM features.

    We have been using BQE Core for project budgets and invoicing, but would like something more user friendly for project management purposes.  We have not used their CRM module.

    We have looked at several other options (Unanet, Monograph are 2) but there is always an issue.  Sometime they don't offer all features, sometimes they don't integrate with Quickbooks (which is needed for our accountant), or they don't work with a Mac.  Some also tell us we are too small to make their program cost effective for us (we are 15 people). Is it even possible to combine all 3 (financial, project management, and CRM) into one program?  (Why one program?  idealistically, we are hoping this would help eliminate duplicate entry of information.)

    Any input or direction for you would be most appreciated.

     



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    Eva Read-Warden AIA NCARB
    The Arkitex Studio Inc
    Bryan-College Station, TX
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  • 2.  RE: Project Management and CRM software for Architects

    Posted 03-03-2025 05:33 PM

    Hello Eva Read-Warden, I am on a similar quest.  The two we are looking at are Factor A/E, and BQE Core.  I'd be happy to share notes. I have had an initial call to kick the tires with Factor, but not yet with BQE.  Deltek is another but I have not engaged, as we are 10 FTEs.



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    Brian Anderson AIA
    Anderson Porter Design
    Cambridge MA
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  • 3.  RE: Project Management and CRM software for Architects

    Posted 03-04-2025 05:39 PM
    We had BQE Core for a few years and transitioned to Factor for the past couple years. Factor was much more intuitive to operate with functional data, time tracking and project performance that easily exports to QBO invoicing. For our practice of 7-10 people... we would not go back.





  • 4.  RE: Project Management and CRM software for Architects

    Posted 03-04-2025 11:50 PM
    This is a complicated question, because there are many options, at many price-points, and with significantly different implementation and user-experience requirements. 

    I think it would be helpful to ask a few CTOs or COOs to join the conversation (or point to additional resources). 
    I don't remember whether the AIA Firm Survey asks respondents about their software systems; however, that may be useful information for the future.

    My very simplistic response:

    Over the past few years, I've been keeping an eye on business software for architecture and design firms, which I reference as an "energy grid" for plug+play operations. I typically use the following categories:
    - ERP - Enterprise Resource Planning - generally integrated with an accounting system, with options for additional modules
    - PPM - Project Planning Management - including sales/pipeline and billings
    - CRM - Customer Relationship Management - including information about clients and collaboraors, as well as project data for use in proposals, etc. This may also include sales/pipeline data.

    ERPs typically have PPM and CRM modules and integrate with Gusto, Workday, and other software for HR/Financial Management..

    For years, most of the larger A/E firms (AIA Large Firm Round Table) used Deltek Vision and equivalent. When Deltek began to shift to Vantage Point, many firms continued with that platform, but others chose ERPs like AEC360 (Microsoft Dynamics 365), and Unanet (which had acquired ClearView and Cosential). 

    Mid-size firms have been using Deltek Ajera and CORE by BQE for ERP/Accounting/PPM; and some firms were adding FactorAE and Monograph for enhanced PPM. Firms are also using software like Pipedrive, Hubspot, Nimble, and Salesforce for CRM/sales. Others began using software like Monday and Asana for marketing/sales, client, and project management, combined with OpenAsset for proprietary images and information. In other words, automated integration, rather than built-in services.

    Smaller firms have been using QuickBooks plus some of these software systems, but many are using QuickBooks and spreadsheets.

    There are some newer options for integrated business and project management software that have been coming from outside the USA. Like FactorAE and Monograph, they integrate with accounting software (eg, Quickbooks). Their sales point is that Quickbooks (or equivalent) is an effective accounting software for many companies, but a project-based company still needs cost-control software for sales/pipeline and project/people management. I'm familiar with these:
    - Accello
    - CMap
    - SCORO
    - Total Synergy

    Hope this helps! I look forward to comments and recommendations from others.

    Note that I'm not a technology specialist; however, technology is an essential part of any firm's ecosystem. I've been interested in technology since the early 1970s, when my father invented automated specifications for the A/E industry, adopted by CSI as ComSpec. In the mid-1970s, when I became the Business Manager of a small startup, I became an early user of the AIA-sponsored Computerized Financial Management System (CFMS) from Harper & Shuman. CFMS was acquired by Deltek who developed it as Vision. And I've been using our own customized low-code CRM database (Filemaker) for years.


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  • 5.  RE: Project Management and CRM software for Architects

    Posted 03-04-2025 11:02 AM

    Thank you Eva and Brian for posting about this issue. I hope our group can provide new insight on CRM/Financial tools available for smaller firms.



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    Rebecca W.E. Edmunds AIA
    Editor, AIA PM Digest
    President, r4llc
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  • 6.  RE: Project Management and CRM software for Architects

    Posted 03-04-2025 05:45 PM

    We converted to Deltek from QuickBooks about a decade ago - when we were about 15 people - we are now 22. It is a pricey software - but is also very powerful. Our biggest challenge is finding accounting side staff who are trained in it when we have turnover, as it is a niche market.  



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    Elizabeth Hallas, FAIA
    Anderson Hallas Architects, P.C.
    Golden, CO
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  • 7.  RE: Project Management and CRM software for Architects

    Posted 03-04-2025 05:32 PM

    This is something that we've struggled with as a firm of 45 employees. We use Deltek Ajera for financials and very limited project management and integrate it with Deltek's Vantagepoint CRM module for the marketing side. The challenge for us is the project management component since Ajera is more about accounting than project management. All of the project management capabilities in Ajera are primarily there for the accounting side (time management, phases, etc). There are some other capabilities like start/stop dates, etc, but those are really focused on financial performance metrics and aren't overly helpful to our PMs.

    What I've found in my search for a more universal solution (Financials/CRM/PM) is that none of the solutions meet all of our needs while remaining viable for a small business. I like the idea of having all three together to provide better analytics and reduced data entry, but I'm just not seeing anything for the small firm that fills all three needs.



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    Greg Francis Assoc. AIA
    ALSC Architects
    Spokane WA
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  • 8.  RE: Project Management and CRM software for Architects

    Posted 03-04-2025 07:31 PM
    Edited by Kurt Shepard, AIA 03-04-2025 07:31 PM

    We've used BQE Core and Replicon.  Switched over to Fresh Projects about a year ago and couldn't be happier.  It is very user-friendly and cost-effective.



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    Kurt Shepard AIA
    SPIRE Architecture
    Annapolis MD
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  • 9.  RE: Project Management and CRM software for Architects

    Posted 03-05-2025 05:35 PM

    Hi Eva.  We are a firm of around 20 people.  We switched about 7 years ago from Quickbooks to Clearview (Unanet).   It is powerful software for project management and accounting.  We did not really begin to use it  fully until about two years ago when they came out with a web based version - much more user friendly.  We find we have to use both the desktop and web version - both are good for specific tasks.  We tried to integrate Cosential as our CRM, and found it somewhat cumbersome and not geared towards our types of projects, so we dropped it.  Clearview has definitely had a big impact on project management and profitability.  My biggest concern with this software is that it takes quite a while to learn, and many more people are familiar with Deltek than Unanet.  In my area, there is a Unanet user group, but it's not very active. 



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    John Berendzen AIA
    Fox Architects
    Saint Louis MO
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  • 10.  RE: Project Management and CRM software for Architects

    Posted 03-07-2025 11:05 AM

    We are a firm of 11 currently and are long term Deltek customers.  We have been using Agera most of this time.  It is expensive but does cover just about everything.  My observation is it seems to be dated and not user friendly.  Like most software once you learn it you can usually get what you need.  For us it is more data than we can absorb but is helpful to know where we are making a profit and where we are not by project and phase.  Overall, it is okay, but we would like to see a more current look to it.  



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    Joe Williams, AIA
    Principal
    A/R/C Associates, Incorporated
    Orlando, Florida
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  • 11.  RE: Project Management and CRM software for Architects

    Posted 03-05-2025 05:58 PM

    Team of up to 15. We use Deltek Ajera and Monday. Both have significant learning curves and up front investment to setup and customize. Tried Monograph, which is beautiful, but I wanted accounting all in one place and the invoicing didn't quite work for us. Surprisingly, Deltek was less expensive and has more functionality, so I got over its sad user interface 😆. I haven't found an all-in-one solution for financials/PM/CRM and not sure it's necessary.  



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    Leah Alissa Bayer, AIA
    President, Architects FORA
    https://architectsfora.com/
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  • 12.  RE: Project Management and CRM software for Architects

    Posted 03-06-2025 05:33 PM

    I'll add to the conversation, but first, for full disclosure:

    •  I ran a small architecture firm for 7 years in Portland, OR. We were 6 people when I left.
    • We used Monograph for our project management and QuickBooks Online for our financial management.
    • I spent about 3-years consulting with small firms that used a range of software tools for firm management, including simple spreadsheets.
    • I currently work at BQE CORE as Director of Content and Community. 

    Most of the software options have been touched on throughout this thread already, so I don't have new ones to mention.

    I enjoyed using Monograph when running my firm because of its nice design and intuitive interface. It was easy to adopt, and we got the whole firm to use it daily. That's a huge win. There were some shortcomings, as with all software. The biggest challenge for firms is that it is not very customizable. And if you want an all-in-one solution, it's not going to give you that now.  

    BQE CORE is an all-in-one solution that has project management, accounting, billing, a CRM, time tracking, and other tools fully integrated. The project management features are currently being improved. We'll be launching new and improved project budgeting, project planning, and resource management tools in the next two months. Our product development roadmap also includes improving the CRM module throughout this year and rolling out fully integrated Payroll in Q2-Q3. Another thing that sets us apart is that we have a fully integrated mobile app that works on all devices, so CORE is truly accessible anywhere. 

    It is a very robust app with lots of options, flexibility, and customizability, which a lot of people value. But to be fair, having so many features and customizability does make it more complicated than an app like Factor or Monograph. I think CORE is a good product that will be great with some of the new improvements rolling out in the coming months.

    This all being said, I'm not trying to give a sales pitch here. I had success running my firm with Monograph and Quickbooks Online. At my firm, we used Hubspot as our CRM, and I really like that app. It is super powerful - even with just their free tools. If you are looking for a standalone CRM I'd recommend going with Hubspot. If you are looking for an all-in-one solution, I honestly think BQE CORE is a great option for most firms - especially firms with 10+ people who need robust tools.  




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    Lucas Gray, Assoc. AIA, SEED
    Charrette Venture Group
    Brooklyn, NY

    https://lucasgray.substack.com/
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  • 13.  RE: Project Management and CRM software for Architects

    Posted 03-06-2025 11:01 PM
    Thank you!
    Love your post, and it's good to know about all of the product development.

    I looked at CORE in 2022, on behalf of one of our clients that was using ArchiOffice, and I wasn't very impressed. I actually liked CMap and Total Synergy better, but they didn't have good customer support in the USA.

    I really like SCORO. One of our clients (a 150-person firm in Latin. America) is using it, and it's pretty amazing.
    They also have an excellent team of digital technology people who are pushing the envelope in all areas of practice.

    Best,
    M.


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  • 14.  RE: Project Management and CRM software for Architects

    Posted 03-18-2025 02:29 PM

    Thank you all for taking the time to share your experiences with ERP, PPM, and CRM software.  I am intrigued by the various paths you have all followed and have learned about some options that I had never heard of before!

    We have been using BQE Core for several years, but I have to say it has not been without difficulties.  Some of that came from how we transitioned from its predecessor ArchiOffice.  Most recently it has been due to quirks within the platform.  ("Not sure why that is happening; we'll need to escalate that.") We have been looking closely at Monograph due to it's PPM features, which we have not found positive in Core.  I heard 1 or 2 of you mention Monograph, but if anyone has more to offer on that one, please let me know.

    We decided to pursue Unanet for our CRM.  We have just begun implementation, so cannot yet report on results.



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    Eva Read-Warden AIA
    The Arkitex Studio Inc
    Bryan TX
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  • 15.  RE: Project Management and CRM software for Architects

    Posted 03-18-2025 04:03 PM
    Hello, Eva -
    I have one general comment about CRMs (and any database):
    With all databases, it's a matter of garbage-in and garbage-out.
    And if no useful information is going in, then there will be less reason to use it.

    CRMs are most successful when someone takes the lead and is able to develop a high level of ownership within the people who will use the information on a regular basis. We have seen many firms invest in an excellent CRM software platform and then never adopt an effective method of data entry and management. But we have also seen truly remarkable success led by a champion who understood the potential and worked with others to develop a tool that people could use and appreciate. (And some wonderful Aha! moments when it really worked.)

    If you go to Knowledge Architecture / Conference / Talk Archive
    you'll have access to a number of presentations by people within the AEC industry who have been able to improve their operations and collaboration through knowledge-sharing. It's truly inspirational!

    Best,
    M.


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  • 16.  RE: Project Management and CRM software for Architects

    Posted 03-18-2025 07:09 PM

    Marjanne Pearson, you hit the nail on the head.

    As a former quality manager involved with implementing and analyzing maintenance of CRMs in multiple A/E firms, we found GIGO as one major issue.

    In final analysis we arrived at the following conclusion:  It has been said that salespeople became salespeople because they do not like drudgery tasks, preferring to socialize more than write.  And, most architects became architects because they like to draw more than write. So now you are asking salespeople-architects to do the drudgery task of entering accurately written data into a software program? 

    One solution to avoid GIGO, albeit costly to implement, was to have a writer interview the salespeople-architects, and writer enter the information. Else find and only hire the rare salespeople-architects who like to write.



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  • 17.  RE: Project Management and CRM software for Architects

    Posted 03-18-2025 09:58 PM
    That was definitely true before the Pandemic, but not as true today, since more people have adopted digital tools and knowledge-sharing. In addition, there are good solutions —

    1. Automate data entry. Meetings are scheduled via software, and people communicate via email, Slack, MS Teams, LinkedIn, etc. I would assume that Cosential (Unanet) and Vantage Point (Deltek) have integrations with Zapier or Outlook/MS/Google/Slack, so information from digital address books and communications be set up to go directly into the database.

    2. Involve younger people in marketing and business development. Digital natives rely on digital information. As they get involved with clients, consultants, and consultants, if they have a CRM with good UX, they will use it.

    But there does need to be a team that understands what information is important and will ensure that the software is programmed for it. The team can also train and coach the users to understand how the info is used and why it matters. Build value through knowledge.

    Best,
    M.

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  • 18.  RE: Project Management and CRM software for Architects

    Posted 03-18-2025 05:21 PM
    Hi Eva-

    I made the switch to monograph a couple of years ago and have been very happy with the product. It's taken me a while to really start utilizing it, but is starting to have an impact on how we understand our firms work flow- currently 4 of us. Invoicing is a breeze! Take the time to set it up properly and I think you will enjoy it. 

    Best of luck!
     
    Robert Ross, AIA
    Principal, Ross Design Architects
    404.405.8414
    | rossdesignatlanta.com 
    robert@rossdesignatlanta.com