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  • 1.  ADA Certification Letter request by lender

    Posted 05-13-2024 01:03 PM

    We have been requested by the Lender for an Affordable Housing project to provide a letter certifying the project meets ADA requirements.  Does the AIA have any language related to this?



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    Deborah Smithton AIA
    Smithton Architects, Inc
    San Diego CA
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  • 2.  RE: ADA Certification Letter request by lender

    Posted 05-14-2024 05:40 PM

    My boss and mentor always said to avoid certifying anything as broad and all encompassing as the "project meets building code" or "project meets ADA requirements".  This is really beyond the capability of any mortal man or woman.  Sometimes these requirements even have conflicts within themselves or even more exciting, the actual requirements can be open to multiple interpretations.  When necessary, I have made statements that include some qualifying language. Something like:

    "I certify that to the best of my knowledge and as required by the legally required standard of care this project has been developed and completed in accordance with the applicable (insert whatever standard), but due to the complexity of the (standard) I cannot attest that it fully complies in all instances."

    I am sure there is better wording that this, but I create the statement to specifically suit the situation.  This covers the general idea.



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    Robert Smith AIA
    Talley & Smith Architecture, Inc.
    Shelby NC
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  • 3.  RE: ADA Certification Letter request by lender

    Posted 05-15-2024 05:25 PM

    I second Michaels message. I would hire a CASp or other certified accessibility professional if in another state and have them prepare a compliance letter. I would never certify anything. Certifications are given by testing agencies, or similar organizations like UL, FM, etc. This is more of compliance with accessibility and ADA.

     

    California Certified Access Specialist (CASp):  www.dgs.ca.gov/casp

    You can find a casp here: casinstitute.org/casp

    Best,

     

    Daniel

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    Project Architect

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  • 4.  RE: ADA Certification Letter request by lender

    Posted 05-15-2024 05:39 PM

    The biggest red flag for this request is the open-endedness of the request.  The ADA is a civil rights law, and anyone can sue for having been discriminated against - whether or not the disability was covered specifically by the ADA. So, it would be risky to certify anything that isn't specific about what is covered.

    An acceptable middle ground might be to say that the documents were produced to comply with ANSI A117.1, or whatever your referenced standard is. 

    That sort of "certification" has been known to satisfy some lenders.



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    Trace Ward AIA
    GLAS Architects, LLC
    Eugene OR
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  • 5.  RE: ADA Certification Letter request by lender

    Posted 05-15-2024 05:53 PM

    In addition to my earlier comments:

    You can say:

    "The following current codes were referenced in the preparation of these drawings:

    1. Building codes (which would include ANSI 117.1 if outside of CA and using IBC) or California Building code which chapter 11B uses the ADAAG 2010 as the model (also same as ANSI 117.1).
    2. Other codes, mechanical, fire, electric, plumbing, etc."

    I have something like on my cover sheets on projects which is what many AHJs request. It's not and should not be a certification.

     

    I also suggest reading this great book. A wonderful reference for architects and communicating the correct way to minimize risk. It's entertaining too!

    The Architect's Guide to Writing: For Design and Construction Professionals 

    by Bill Schmalz (Author)

     

     

    Best,

     

    Daniel

    Daniel Guich, RA, NCARB, CDT, LEED ap

    Project Architect

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  • 6.  RE: ADA Certification Letter request by lender

    Posted 07-16-2024 12:52 PM

    My attorney says never "certify". A suggestion would be to start your sentence with "To the best of my knowledge, and as required...."



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    Nea May Poole, AIA, NCARB
    Principal
    Poole & Poole Architecture, LLC
    Glen Allen, Virginia
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  • 7.  RE: ADA Certification Letter request by lender

    Posted 07-16-2024 04:24 PM
    How about just say NO ?

    DFT/Siri





  • 8.  RE: ADA Certification Letter request by lender

    Posted 07-16-2024 04:46 PM
    There have been great comments in this topic thread.  If your client is one you like to do their work, ask your legal counsel and insurance broker to assist you in creating a proper statement/language for you.  In Georgia, our state agencies that develop the state's higher ed and tech ed projects require a few certification statements.  We create a statement and add it because we want to do those projects.
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    Michael L. Katzin, AIA | Architect

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  • 9.  RE: ADA Certification Letter request by lender

    Posted 07-16-2024 04:53 PM

    No is a fine choice if you do not want to ever work with that client again since you scuttled their loan. A work around might be more prudent.



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    Nea May Poole, AIA, NCARB
    Principal
    Poole & Poole Architecture, LLC
    Glen Allen, Virginia
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  • 10.  RE: ADA Certification Letter request by lender

    Posted 07-17-2024 05:48 PM