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  • 1.  Turning a Project Over to Another Architect

    Posted 02-23-2011 10:15 AM

    I designed a new church building for a local congregation several years ago.  We were about 50% through CD's when they pulled the plug in 2006.  I was eventually paid for the work I had done up to that point.  Fast forward to today and now they want to move ahead with just a small portion of the project.  However, a local architect has since joined the congregation and is offering to do the project pro bono.  They have asked if I would be willing to turn over the CAD drawings to this new architect so he doesn't have to start from scratch.  I don't have a problem in principle but I am concerned about liability issues.  Is anyone aware of a resource that might help me draft an agreement that would protect me from any future liability?  Or, maybe I'm just being paranoid.  The other architect is an acquaintance and has a good reputation.  Any advice would be appreciated.

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    Thomas Milleson AIA
    Milleson Architects
    Bozeman MT
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  • 2.  RE:Turning a Project Over to Another Architect

    Posted 02-23-2011 05:18 PM

    Thomas, Here are a few resources collected from the AIA national office.

    From a Contract Documents perspective:

     

    We have provisions in B101 (our standard owner-architect agreement) that deal with this issue. You can find commentaries on B101 and A201 (the General Conditions document that goes with B101) at www.aia.org/contractdocs/reference. We also have two documents that deal with the exchange of digital data:

     

    C106-2007, Digital Data Licensing Agreement

    AIA Document C106™-2007 serves as a licensing agreement between two parties who otherwise have no existing licensing agreement for the use and transmission of digital data, including instruments of service. AIA Document C106-2007 defines digital data as information, communications, drawings, or designs created or stored for a specific project in digital form. AIA C106 allows one party to (1) grant another party a limited non-exclusive license to use digital data on a specific project, (2) set forth procedures for transmitting the digital data, and (3) place restrictions on the license granted. In addition, C106 allows the party transmitting digital data to collect a licensing fee for the recipient's use of the digital data.

     

    E201-2007, Digital Data Protocol Exhibit

    AIA Document E201™-2007 is not a stand-alone document, but must be attached as an exhibit to an existing agreement, such as the AIA Document B101™-2007, Standard Form of Agreement Between Owner and Architect, or A101™-2007, Agreement Between Owner and Contractor. Its purpose is to establish the procedures the parties agree to follow with respect to the transmission or exchange of digital data, including instruments of service. AIA Document E201-2007 defines digital data as information, communications, drawings, or designs created or stored for a specific project in digital form. E201 does not create a separate license to use digital data, because AIA documents for design or construction, to which E201 would be attached, already include those provisions. Parties not covered under such agreements should consider executing AIA Document C106™-2007, Digital Data Licensing Agreement.

     

    From: Ann Casso (AIA Trust)

    I would suggest three things:

    1. Talk with your liability insurer. Sometimes they are willing and able to help;
    2. Talk with Chuck Heuer, FAIA Esq. at LegaLine about how he might be able to help you (800/688-9780).
    3. See other AIA Trust risk management resources.

     

    From Dr. Richard Hayes, AIA (AIA National Staff, Director of Knowledge Resources)

     

    See the AIA Best Practice that deals with transferring documents electronically at

    http://www.aia.org/practicing/bestpractices/AIAS077006.

     



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    Kathleen Simpson
    Manager, Knowledge Communities
    The American Institute of Architects
    Washington DC
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  • 3.  RE:Turning a Project Over to Another Architect

    Posted 02-24-2011 07:25 AM


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    John Anastasi AIA
    Firm Owner/Architect
    Anastasi & Associates
    Bayside NY
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    Thomas : in the very least  (if You go thru with giving the drawings over) you muist obtain a full release from both parties for any mistakes misunderstanding of the content and or errors. The other Architect must also give yuou a release that he has checked the drawings and will take full responsibility for their reuse. I do not believe that there is any agreement possible that will cover you in the event of a  third party lawsuit ( now don't forget the tupe of building it is and the degree and type of lawsuits which can develop).




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  • 4.  RE:Turning a Project Over to Another Architect

    Posted 02-24-2011 08:20 AM
    I'm with XL Insurance; in other situations where I needed something unusual, I've called them and asked for help - they are GREAT!

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    Lisa Stacholy AIA
    LKS Architects, Inc.
    Dunwoody GA
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  • 5.  RE:Turning a Project Over to Another Architect

    Posted 02-24-2011 11:44 AM
    Having been put in similar situations, at the very least I would have the client sign a letter acknowledging recept of the files and make sure that it includes langauge similar to the following:

    In the event of any reuse or modification of the XYZ Architect's drawings, specifications, in whole or in part, or other documents by any person, firm or legal entity, the names and seals of the Architect and the Architect's Consultants, if any, shall first be removed from the Architect's drawings, specifications or other documents.  The Client further agrees to indemnify, defend and hold XYZ Architect harmless from and against any and all claims, liabilities, suits, demands, losses, costs and expenses, including, but not limited to, reasonable attorneys' fees occurring to or resulting from any and all persons, firms or any other legal entity, on account of any damage or loss to property or persons, including, but not limited to, death arising out of the use, reuse or modifications of the XYZ Architect's drawings, specifications or other documents.


    it's a shame that we have to be concerned about such issues but it is the current state of "Practice Management"  Good luck.

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    Christopher Torrey AIA
    LPA, Inc.
    Newport Beach CA
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  • 6.  RE:Turning a Project Over to Another Architect

    Posted 02-24-2011 09:59 AM

    You WILL need the advice of an attorney (experienced in professional liability) for such an agreement, which you do need. It doesn't matter if the architect is the best in the country, since a church is a public building, if there is any claim naming the architect, you will also be named even if the claim has nothing to do with the part of the work you did. You could spend much more money defending yourself in court.

    Do not rely on an agreement you find on the internet from LawyersRus.com (not a real site, I think), and do not rely on "limited liability" or "hold harmless" wording you might have in your original agreement or standard AIA contracts. You need an agreement that addresses this specific situation.

    Even with the agreement signed by the church and the other architect, you could still be liable if your original drawings are used. And, no offense intended, but if the new architect uses your original drawings, he could also be at greater risk by using drawings that may contain errors that he did not create. In fact, he may not be in compliance with state law if he did not produce the documents himself or under his direct supervision.

    I've done many church projects in pro bono or "at cost" arrangements, because despite denominational differences, it's all for a great purpose. Even if you want to trust the church and others with a like purpose, you still have to protect yourself from third-parties who have less generous hearts.

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    David Clarke AIA
    Senior Architect, Williams Design Group, Inc.
    President-Elect, AIA New Mexico Southern Chapther
    Las Cruces NM
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  • 7.  RE:Turning a Project Over to Another Architect

    Posted 02-24-2011 12:51 PM
    What you need is a simple release, indemnity, and hold harmless clause. It should basically say that the architect assuming the drawings assumes full responsibility and releases you from any responsibility and liability. Your attorney should be able to draft the appropriate document.

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    Jerry Roller AIA
    Firm Owner/Architect
    JKR Partners
    Philadelphia PA
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  • 8.  RE:Turning a Project Over to Another Architect

    Posted 02-24-2011 04:20 PM
    Thomas-

    No good deed goes unpunished......your not paranoid you are listening to your gut.  Get a legal release that your attorney draws up, and get the church to pay for it.

    Bob.

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    Robert Collins AIA
    Merrillville IN
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