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  • 1.  RE: NCARB

    Posted 12-02-2010 09:07 AM
    Ditto here in Florida.  

    I am not trying to rub salt into the wounds of NCARB, but my business partner  of 12 years is licensed in Mexico and the best architect I know.  We have been struggling to get thru the NCARB process just so that he can sit for the exam!  

    NCARB keeps holding him up on the basis of taking an english class!  He is a citizen, his mother is from N.J. and he attended only english speaking schools!  He is fully degreed from an accredited school.

    The real issue is communication.  Not english.  The communication skills of NCARB are lacking at best.  We call them constantly, leave messages, etc.  They have a wonderful habit of calling back three days later when no one is in our office.  Email is a total waste, they apparently have never hear of that for of communication.

    Look, we understand the reasons behind their purpose and agree completely.  That said, appear to be a poorly managed organization.  They assist with getting people thru the licensing process, their business is customer service!  Our customer service has been very weak.

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    Robert Glisson AIA
    Rojo Architecture
    Tampa FL
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  • 2.  RE:NCARB

    Posted 12-02-2010 11:25 AM
    I have heard of similar scenarios from other architects.  I have over twenty years experience, sat for the exact same licensing exam as other resistered architects in the State of Illinois, but am somehow classified as a second class citizen because I did't attend an "accredited" university. Having graduated in 1988, I was not afforded the opportunity to fulfill the IDP reqirement, but feel I have met and exceeded those over the years.

    NCARB suggests submitting inder the Broadly Experienced Architect category for certification but I have concerns about investing substantial amounts of money into an evaluation that appear to be strictly subjective. 

    Does anyone have any experience in successfully getting certified through this avenue?


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    Brian Faith AIA
    Walker Restoration
    Elgin IL
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  • 3.  RE:NCARB

    Posted 12-03-2010 12:25 PM
    Our firm president got her NCARB certificate through the BEA process in 2008.  She was very well-qualified and experienced.  Doing the IDP was just a matter of going over the previous 17 years of timesheets and assigning tasks to the relevant categories. 

    The BEA submittal was another matter.  The 2007 criteria and presentation template we received from NCARB was confusing and poorly organized.  We had to make sense of it, and work the candidate's project experience like a puzzle until we felt all BEA criteria was met.  It took numerous people and hundreds of hours to develop and present the narrative and graphics.  After initial submittal, the committee requested supplemental information to fill-in apparent gaps.

    Then there's the interview.  You get in the hot seat and convince them that you are a broadly experienced architect.  You might not fit the committee's preconceptions about an architect.  For example, you might not have a lot of hand-sketches or perspectives in your submittal.  However, if you have a hundred buildings for which you were the architect-in-charge, and were responsible for programming, budgeting, code review, design, detailing, CD's, bidding, permitting, and CA - as well as significant experience in running a firm - it should be hard for the committee to deny that your are qualified to receive the BEA.

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    David Bernhardt AIA
    Principal
    KCA Architecture + Engineering PC
    Washington DC
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  • 4.  RE:NCARB

    Posted 12-07-2010 10:46 AM

    Doing the IDP was just (?!) a matter of going over the previous 17 years of timesheets and assigning tasks to the relevant categories. 

    In the immortal words of John McEnroe, "You cannot be serious!"  Who in the world has 17 years of time sheets? Not to mention correct project numbers and correct project  phases.  

    I'm hoping  I've missed the sarcasm here.

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    Eugene Ely AIA
    HMC Architects
    San Jose CA
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