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  • 1.  Planning commission, plan checkers - how do they affect the outcome of use of cold-formed steel?

    Posted 01-30-2013 04:34 PM
    Hello:

    Thank you all for your posts.  I've also learned that the choices of building owners and architects can be affected by the choice of contractors and the determination of plan checkers.

    What happens to cold-formed steel in these instances?

    Do you, as architects, change your plans to accommodate contractors who do not work in steel, or do you instead find a contractor that will work in steel?

    Do you ever have to "instruct" plan checkers about cold-formed steel? Or do you instead change materials to suit the planning commission and plan checkers?

    Thanks

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    Kathy FLAMENT
    President
    Flament Associates, LLC
    Rehoboth Beach DE
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    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 2.  RE:Planning commission, plan checkers - how do they affect the outcome of use of cold-formed steel?

    Posted 01-31-2013 06:18 AM
    You may need to do some education propaganda work ahead of you. If your jurisdiction uses a model code, cold formed steel framing is an allowable system. This is not like Frank Lloyd Wright mocking up the column on the Johnson Wax building to prove its strength. If I have to provide alternate construction system to suit contractors then I want to be paid for it. We are not talking about changing a paragraph of notes on a set of drawings here. You , the architect needs to do your due diligence here. If the bidding is by invitation then separate the wheat from the chaff. You want someone experience here rather then the owners cousin that looked on the web to get familiar with the product. Best of luck ------------------------------------------- David DeFilippo AIA Tsoi/Kobus Associates; Cambridge, MA Milton MA -------------------------------------------
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  • 3.  RE:Planning commission, plan checkers - how do they affect the outcome of use of cold-formed steel?

    Posted 01-31-2013 09:14 AM
    Kathy ~ 

    re: Steel framing, cold rolled steel, plans examiners etc.

    This is primarily a choice of the architect and owner.  I sometimes see the choice to use wood on small buildings to suit the contractor.  Plans examiners do not make or force these decisions.  They simply review the design for code compliance and all 50 states are using codes based on the ICC model codes. (see iccsafe.org).  However, plans examiners and building officials may be asked for their opinions on the pros and cons of a particular construction type if an architect is struggling with a choice.  Planning commissions and zoning boards would rarely force the use of steel construction as a matter of land use or aesthetics unless its part of a specially adopted code or ordinance.

    As for the qualifications of plans examiners, they are usually very well trained on the code merits of steel construction via ICC and state certifications.  In Ohio for example, to review and recommend plan approval you must be a licensed design professional and have Master Plans Examiner certification by the state of Ohio.  There is also mandatory continuing education in addition to the CE requirements of the state license to practice architecture or engineering.  Hence, you're preaching to the choir when it comes to a preference for non-combustible construction because they understand the long term safety and welfare benefits better that most people.

    As an aside, the code versions and state modifications will vary because of a 3 year model code adoption cycle.  You may also see additional codes for some building types also regulated by NFPA codes and standards like NFPA 101 (Life Safety Code).  NFPA 70 (National Electric Code), NFPA 13 (Sprinkler Code) and NFPA 72 (Fire Alarm Code) are used almost universally across the nation.

    The decision to use steel framing and cold rolled steel usually boils down to the preferred construction type and whether or not the building is sprinklered in order to achieve an allowable area the works best for the project.  The two most common construction types are V-B (wood frame - most combustible) and II-B (steel frame - noncombustible).  An easy way to get a larger allowable square footage is to sprinkler a building or make it non-combustible.  There are a lot of other accrued benefits to being both non-combustible and sprinklered. (see IBC table 503 for a good start)

    To be clear, I'm referring here to steel in commercial construction.  It is much less common in residential construction unless you get into multistory/multifamily residential projects which still often lean toward wood construction with sprinklers.  One of the reasons is that there is a big preference for pre-engineered wood trusses and this sets the stage for type V-B combustible construction.  If you wanted to revolutionize the multifamily construction industry, I'd start with the cost, design, production and delivery of pre-engineered trusses using cold rolled steel.  The cost may be higher for trusses but it would be interesting to know what the total building costs would be if its all steel vs.all wood.  That's why sprinlkler systems are so prevalent now - they give a big boost to cutting overall costs of constructing and owing a building.

    Hope this helps.


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    Terry Welker AIA
    Chief Building Official
    Master Plans Examiner
    City of Kettering
    Kettering OH
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    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 4.  RE:Planning commission, plan checkers - how do they affect the outcome of use of cold-formed steel?

    Posted 01-31-2013 08:02 PM
    I have never had any sort of problem with cold-formed steel, in all my forty years. Is there a problem?

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    Charles Graham AIA
    Architect
    O'Neal, Inc.
    Greenville SC
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