While I have seen projects where Gustavo's concerns were realized (RFIs being uncoordinated with other documents), I have also been fortunate to work for excellent AEs where RFIs get coordinated fully and correctly into the CDs, as described by Michael. Starting with a hand sketch or a written response is not a problem.
Original Message:
Sent: 11/20/2024 1:24:00 PM
From: Michael D. Miller AIA
Subject: RE: Updating the CDs during CCA phase
Gustavo,
Perhaps a bit of clarification is in order. For the most part, my sketches are either a part of an RFI response or generate a confirming RFI, which then will end up as a part of a true change document.
On the contrary, my field sketches are not "a 'shoot from the hip' solution". They are thought out in collaboration with the contractor and the team. It is what I do for a living and have been for many years. Them becoming a part of an RFI waylays your concerns regarding number, date of issuance, revisions number, etc. The sketch gets incorporated into the documents by the team.
"Will the sketch be in conflict with other changes that other members of the team may have introduced in the documents before, and that you didn't see because you just drew the sketch on your pad?" That assumes I am not looking at the current documents with the current updates, which is not the case. I have the current documents available on my iPad.
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Michael Miller AIA
HKS, Inc.
Richmond VA
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-20-2024 12:59 PM
From: Gustavo Lima
Subject: Updating the CDs during CCA phase
Michael: a quick sketch is fine as a stop gap measure. But it seems to me you will want to follow that with a true change document (ASI, Bulletin, answer to an RFI, Change Proposal Request).
Field sketches are a "shoot from the hip" solution, which can be very helpful to clarify conditions for the contractor, but which may also lead to plenty of problems. For example:
Do they have a sketch number and date of issuance? Does the drawing that this sketch modifies show now a new revision number for this sketch? When other members of the CCA team are revising the drawings, will they be aware of the changes you introduced through this sketch? Will the sketch be in conflict with other changes that other members of the team may have introduced in the documents before, and that you didn't see because you just drew the sketch on your pad?
we are never going to abandon the ability to resolve a pressing problem via a an illustration, we are architects, after all! But we need to use these tools judiciously, or we risk creating all sorts of problems.
Best regards,
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Gustavo Lima AIA, MRAIC, CCCA, DBIA, LEED AP
Gustavo A. Lima Architecture, PC
Buffalo, NY
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-20-2024 11:43 AM
From: Michael Miller
Subject: Updating the CDs during CCA phase
While I do agree, depending upon how the contract is written, the contract drawings should be kept up to date. That said, I do disagree with the following:
"All this is no longer valid: producing a sketch on a 8,5" x 11" takes the same time as producing a full drawing, and both can be transmitted with the same speed.)"
As a full time CA, who travels to multiple job sites, in my back pack is an 8 1/2 x 11 gridded pad and my drawing instruments. It is much, much quicker for me to sketch a detail in the field, take a picture with my phone or iPad and email to the contractor. They love it as they don't have to wait for a drawing to be formally issued. My laptop does not even have Revit nor to my team members want me working in the model. Don't summarily discount "old school" ways of doing things.
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Michael Miller AIA
HKS, Inc.
Richmond VA
Original Message:
Sent: 11-19-2024 04:54 PM
From: Gustavo Lima
Subject: Updating the CDs during CCA phase
Adding my two cents:
Seems to me that maintaining the documents that we ourselves are producing ought to be our responsibility.
When you are working on a large project, with many actors, and work on the field and in the offices of the subs, proceeding simultaneously over many fronts, it is essential that the contract documents be coordinated at all times.
As Sean says, the way to do this would be for the A/E to work directly on the model, which would keep it up to date at all times. The model would then be uploaded periodically (up to once a week, depending on the frequency of the changes). The design team would tag each change with a delta and note it accordingly on the title block, since each time that one issues a sketch depicting a portion of a drawing, one is in fact, re-issuing the drawing. In fact, it would be preferable and all around easier if you simply re-issue the drawing in its entirety instead of just a portion of it. (Using sketches is a remnant of a time when producing a copy of a full drawing was very laborious, and the product could not be sent to the contractor quickly, whereas a sketch could be faxed. All this is no longer valid: producing a sketch on a 8,5" x 11" takes the same time as producing a full drawing, and both can be transmitted with the same speed.)
Note: The same rationale should be used for specs: If you issue a revision to the section, you ought to issue the full section, including the header and footer, which should contain the dates of original issue and the revision in question (just like we do with the drawings).
Gustavo Lima, AIA, MRAIC, DBIA, CCCA, LEED AP