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  • 1.  Pilgrimage

    Posted 09-29-2025 09:37 AM

    I guess every COD chair needs to visit Chartre.  I did so this morning.  Besides being awesome in every way, it was a big surprise.  I believe most of us practice within a world that might be characterized as ding an sich a la Kahn.  That is, I think we pretty much take it for granted that materials and assemblies should tell the truth about themselves.  If the historians are to be believed, nothing could be further from the truth of Chartre Cathedral.  They constructed of stone, then lime washed (we might call it plastered) and then painted to create the appearance of stone.  I am stunned.  It also seems to be consistent with the claims that the Parthenon was painted in multiple colors.  There is an ancient church in Poitiers (not Saint Pierre Cathedral) that probably gives an indication of what such painting might have looked like.
    Be well.  Tell me I am confused.
    Mike



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    Mike Mense FAIA
    Architect, Writer, Planner, Painter
    mmenseArchitect
    mensenyc on Instagram
    Hamilton Heights, NYC and Snohomish WA
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  • 2.  RE: Pilgrimage

    Posted 09-29-2025 07:44 PM

    I can't say you're confused.

    If I remember my Vitruvius correctly, he considered the Doric order to be an artistic interpretation of wood construction detailing, rendered in stone. I'm sure there are many other historic and vernacular examples of masquerading materials. I think the honest expression of materials is more a feature of certain schools of thought than a universal principle. Despite teaching about Vitruvius, a majority of my architecture professors (bordering on unanimity) commented on material expression in every design jury. The most insulting critique you could make of an early 1980's design was to say it employed "pastiche"--which is a great French word for the plaster-and-paint faux finish at French Gothic churches like Chartre. And then Postmodernism happened. Rules were made to be broken.



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    Sean Catherall AIA
    Murray UT
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  • 3.  RE: Pilgrimage

    Posted 09-30-2025 11:05 AM
    There's a useful article about this here - with links to opposing views at the time decisions were being made. 


    I visited Chartres several times before the restoration. Visited again when the first samples were being done and last time when the restoration was nearly complete.

    I miss the wonderful darkness that was there.

    John Hayes FAIA
    Sent from my iPhone