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  • 1.  A new organization for American licensed residential architects

    Posted 08-01-2012 07:19 AM
    Fellow architects;

    Please allow me to cut to the chase.  The main reason that the general public stays away from registered architects is two fold.  First, because the AIA is high handed in their approach to any public addresses we are percieved as an expensive commodity, unaffordable and self centered.  Second, general contractors do not wish to have us involved in a project because we are concieved as being too egotistic and single minded with an approach only to better ourselves rather than be open to suggestions from his experience.  He thus relays this to the owner and resorts to a computer program or a local drafter who does business as a home designer.  It all stems from the "Fountainhead" image Ayn Rand portrayed.

    I feel that the AIA is a mother organization but too fatherly. 

    One item needs to added to your consideration that building permits for homes should have an architects' seal.  It should also require some form of observation continuum and certification for a CO.

    What I am saying is that you need to alter your fees to make yourselves affordable and be known as part of a team, a core part of the team.  Right now you a group of commercial artists and drafters are substituted for you.

    God bless you all, and good luck................Bob

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    Robert Morris EAIA
    Canterbury CT
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  • 2.  RE:A new organization for American licensed residential architects

    Posted 08-02-2012 08:50 AM
    Mr. Morris,
    With all due respect, it is incredibly cynical to blame the AIA for us gravitating to a small pool of the wealthiest clients. I haven't seen any commercials on TV displaying us as an elitist group that will only provide services for those who are deemed "good enough". In fact, the average person simply doesn't know we exist in the context that directly affects their lives because our typical business models don't include them. The AIA isn't promoting this attitude, we are. It's not the AIA's fault that we choose to do business the way we do. General Contractors do hire us when we are business savvy enough to figure out how to fit in their business models and not insist that they conform to ours. The problem is simple and it has nothing to do with the AIA or the Builders screwing us. 

    The vast majority of the money being made in the building industry is not in commercial buildings or homes for the wealthy. The biggest piece of the pie is in housing for people in the 98%. We choose to turn our noses up to this work. We choose not to get involved in speculative housing, which accounts for over 80% of all houses being built. One of our own once said, "Less is More." I've made a lucrative business as a sole proprietor thinking along those lines while providing good design to the people not included in the standard Architect's business model. Insisting that average home owners and home builders pay 5 figures for a set of extremely detailed drawings is only going to price YOU out of their realm of affordability. Houses for 98% of Americans do NOT require that high of a level of documentation. You can provide good design to these people if you simply do less. When we bundle many services into a project, we're expected to give a little discount for that bigger fee. This diminishes your dollars per hour from the beginning. When we provide just what is needed we can charge the minimum set up fee or the most $$$/hr. The total fee may be less, but the amount of time spent to make that dollar is much less when you don't bundle your services for a discount. A home builder can build from a napkin sketch. The building officials only require so much information, so only provide what each needs and you can find your fee becoming affordable to many more people. This paranoid notion that we must over document a project to protect ourselves has often been the root of lawsuits against us. How many spec books in conflict with the drawings have bit us in the butt? The more information you provide a lawyer to analyze, the more they find to nail you with. Sometimes LESS IS MORE!

    98% of Americans make $250K or less. These people require loans for the maximum amount of financing to build a house, which is typically 80% of the value of the proposed design. When we're used to working for the other 2%, we don't have to worry about how the bank arrives at that value number because these clients can pay for all or most of the construction cost without financing. Appraisals are the root cause of why we exclude ourselves from the majority of the most lucrative sector of the building industry. An Appraisal is a certified value and the bank cannot lend money without a certified value for the project. The way appraisals are typically done in this country is to simply average the recent sales in the area. There is little regard to the quality differences of the houses, as the location is the most important aspect. New houses are valued at the highest rate per sf and the only house that can register as a new sale is a speculative house. The cheapest made, worst designed houses in America are driving the values in YOUR area. When one of our more expensive, better designed houses are compared as equals to the houses that just sold as NEW, because they exist in the same location, our projects seem overpriced and not valuable. How many people would pay current rates for a BMW or Gucci purse if they were valued as equals to their lesser priced, cheaper made knock offs? People will pay lots of money for ugly things if these things are considered valuable. It doesn't work the other way around.

    If we paid market price for the land, this would account for the mysterious cost of being in one location or another. We could then see what people are willing to pay for the site made product itself. A cheap made box would no longer be viewed as the same thing as a more desirable, better designed, better built house just because they happen to sit side by side. We could compare our work to our work no matter where it sits and the builder box guys would have to accept the value of what they are really building, not using our better sales history to give themselves a pay raise. Appraisal Reform is the most important key to us getting involved in the majority of buildings being built in this country, the average house. If we fix this, we will become valuable to everyone. Right now design doesn't matter because there is no way to track how much people are willing to pay for better design. The value system is rigged against us, not the AIA or Builders. 

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    Eric Rawlings AIA
    Owner
    Rawlings Design, Inc.
    Decatur GA
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  • 3.  RE:A new organization for American licensed residential architects

    Posted 08-02-2012 10:25 AM
    And Builders aren't "Egotistical and Self Centered?" Please!
    and I haven't blown up any of my building designs that have run amuck in a builder's hands.

    Stop with the "altering fees" to make us more "affordable" aka Cheaper.
    Cheaper is almost always Crappier.

    Promote  your "Value" Be it in Construction Knowledge, Product Selection and Acquisition, Document Production, or the most basic Fundamental Design Talent and Abilities.
    If your client or (heaven forbid) builder wants "cheaper" then they should not be your "client"
    If your client or builder wants "value" then they should be your "client"

    Lower fees means that people with talent will go to other fields to make a better living and the talent pool of residential architects will fall lower and the public will use us less. We need to stop trying to compete at the bottom but instead make the bottom seek us.

    (And thank you for your blessing, I appreciate it and welcome all that you want to offer.)
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    Randall Walton AIA
    Vice President
    Walton & Walton, Inc
    Fort Worth TX
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  • 4.  RE:A new organization for American licensed residential architects

    Posted 08-03-2012 06:31 AM
    Providing a lower total fee without sacrificing your dollars per hour is NOT lowering your worth. Providing an appropriate fee for the appropriate amount of service is VALUABLE. If you provide a design for a speculative home builder and they tell you they don't need 30% of the drawings you provided, then that is not VALUABLE to them. We have to quit thinking in terms of our selfish desire of what is VALUABLE to us and learn to communicate our design ideas and goals in an appropriate way. If what's VALUABLE to you excludes you from 98% of the residential clients, then good for you if you're making a killing working for a minority of Americans. We can't survive as a profession if we make this elitist stand and demand what is VALUABLE to everyone. Each client and each project type has an appropriate level of detail and fee. If something is VALUABLE to you and not your clients, then maybe you need to reassess your business model if you want to expand your influence to more than the standard pool of wealthy clients that can afford you. A spec house may not land that cover story on your favorite magazine, but is it not better that you give the spec builders a fighting chance to build something other than a lousy box? I have several spec builders sold on the concept that a unique design will sell faster and for more because there is ZERO urgency to buy a mass produced item, but when someone falls in love with a unique item, there is a sense of urgency to buy right away and for more.

    I charge a higher fee than the residential designers in my area, but it's still competitive. I give more value to my clients by providing just what they need and I still get paid what I'm worth in terms of $$$/hr. I've run most of the residential designers out of my area because they can't compete with my fees and the kind of service/ design solutions that I can provide for that fee. It's about working smart, not just cutting your fee.

    Worth = $$$/ hr.

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    Eric Rawlings AIA
    Owner
    Rawlings Design, Inc.
    Decatur GA
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  • 5.  RE:A new organization for American licensed residential architects

    Posted 08-02-2012 01:18 PM
          I just purchased a set of books (text, teacher guide and workbook) called "Architecture, residential drafting and design" by Clois Kicklighter. published by G-W. Here is why this should be of interest to you all. Mr. Kicklighter had been a Dean of School of Technology , Indiana State University - but I did not find any reference to his as an architect in his obituary (he passed away) the material in the book will allow any High School student to have enough information to make a 'set of plans'. And I can assure you lots of them become builders and do just that. For the average person, the work of these drafters and the work of an architect are hard to understand, and harder to understand why the architect provides value. This is a big problem for residential work. I have a neighbor who is involved in realestate development - her plans come form a plan mill overseas, she is only concerned that the building has enough bedrooms to rent the property easily. The plans have a state seal, the 'designer' never came to the site the buildings are big ugly boxes.
          The reason I bought the books is that I teach a class in architecture at the high school level - but it is not a drafting class.  It is a class that attempts to help students appreciate architecture, the work of the architect and urban designer, and the value architects provide to clients. I emphasize that the class is not to make architects, but to make good architectural consumers. Several of my students have moved on to architecture school, and I am proud of that but I hope the rest will always require an architect as a team member, will insist on developing a world of beauty with respect for the environment. Our class works closely with AIA architects (as past President of a section of AIA I have good contacts with friends who volunteer to come to class).  I hope this class educates the architectural consumers of tomorrow.  We must approach this problem of how to value architecture and the architect from every side possible.

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    Dr. Roger W. Keller AIA
    Roger W. Keller, Architect
    Upper Black Eddy PA
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  • 6.  RE:A new organization for American licensed residential architects

    Posted 08-02-2012 02:16 PM
    Roger, God bless you.  There should be about 100,000 guys and gals like you, in schools around the Nation, educating the general public as to what architects are and what they do.  Thank you! 

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    Rand Soellner AIA
    Architect/Owner/Principal
    Rand Soellner Architect
    Cashiers NC
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  • 7.  RE:A new organization for American licensed residential architects

    Posted 08-03-2012 02:12 PM
    Rand,
      Thanks, I have to add that I was waiting at the doctor's office and there was a show on TV about getting people to rent a home i think it was called "rent" They present the 'client' with 3 choices and the cute woman designer talks them through each apartment. When the client said she liked the apartment with big windows above a store, the 'designer' said 'I hate to tell you but no one wants to live above a store' - sort of a different message than the vitality of mixed use residential urban planners tout. Not bad enough, the designer then talks the client into a basement apartment that has  NO WINDOWS! It has about 8 glass block on one side and a tiny slit of a window about 1ft high by 3ft wide in the bedroom. ON national TV they dump the light airy one for an illegal basement fire trap! This is what we are up against. I asked the office to turn the program off and they did switch to CNN. The following show that was starting showed a house makeover starting - no plans, just 'going for it' with a 'designer' leading the charge. This is what people are seeing every day. I asked the doctor what she would think if there was a show on the value of smoking running in her lobby waiting room as she tried to help patients. It gets you crazy. Sorry.

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    Dr. Roger Keller AIA
    Roger W. Keller, Architect
    Upper Black Eddy PA
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  • 8.  RE:A new organization for American licensed residential architects

    Posted 08-03-2012 02:55 PM
    I agree completely, Roger.  It's like the DIY and HGTV folks have a dedicated mission to erase architects from the face of the Earth.  Only recently have I noticed that they finally started to use Licensed Contractors rather than "builders."  I wonder if people in those organizations are flunk-outs from architectural school?  Like they  have some kind of hidden agenda.

    We need to do something to correct the public's perceptions that you shouldn't be just running amuck to build or renovate anything.  Where are the building permits in this mess?  That would set a few people straight: having some salty County or City inspector red-tag their misguided craziness and pulling the so-called "designers" forward to question them about where their approved Construction Documents were and while they were at it, what are their credentials?  Are they architects?  Could I see your license? 

    Then having the inspector ask about structural connections, flashings, height of chimneys and a host of other issues never addressed on these "reality" programs.  As if, in real life, you could actually do all that with a few hundred bucks (hey, with free TV labor, that helps!) and in a few hours (and of course, no charge for the "design").  No wonder we have such problems getting clients these days.  People see venues like this and think everything's free but a few drapes and pieces of plywood. 

    WHICH IS WHY THE AIA AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS NEED TO BE EDUCATING THE PUBLIC AT LARGE ON TV AND IN OTHER MEDIA ABOUT THE VALUE OF LICENSED RESIDENTIAL ARCHITECTS, which it does not appear to be doing.  Thanks again, Roger, for your thoughtful observations.
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    Rand Soellner AIA
    Architect/Owner/Principal
    Rand Soellner Architect
    Cashiers NC
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