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  • 1.  Windowless apts

    Posted 04-21-2011 12:18 PM
    The IBC Sec. R310 requires emergency egress openings in all sleeping rooms. Isn't this code adopted in all the states now?

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    A. Atkinson
    A. Gordon Atkinson, Architect
    San Francisco CA
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  • 2.  RE:Windowless apts

    Posted 04-22-2011 09:50 AM
    All,

    I think that "windowless apartments" have been allowed since BOCA 1990, or earlier, but there are two big kickers that make them impractical.  As noted below, an emergency egress is needed, which is not a very practical replacement for an actual operable window, and just as important, there must be a mechanical ventilation system providing outside fresh air.  This mechanical system is expensive to install and more expensive to operate year round.

    For me the biggest fear is not that middle income people will suddenly have to move into apartments without windows, but that this option in the code could allow exploitation of lower income families and immigrants, that the mechanical ventilation systems will not be maintained, and there will be little inspection.  I am not a housing expert and do not know to what extent this option has been pursued, but hope that it is a small percent.

    As to why this discussion is within the Historic Resource forum - good question.  I think the original entry had to do with an historic property in which some units would have no windows because the floor plan / foot print left a lot of interior space, which is unfortunate.

    Thanks
    Sherman

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    Sherman Aronson AIA
    BLT Architects
    Philadelphia PA
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  • 3.  RE:Windowless apts

    Posted 04-22-2011 11:59 AM
    I don't think you can have a bedroom if you do not have a window, a closet and a minimum room area and a minimum ceiling height.  This has pretty much been a requirement in all building codes for as long as I have practiced architecture.

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    Gabriel Romero AIA
    Principal
    The RKtects Studio Inc.
    Bethesda MD
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    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 4.  RE:Windowless apts

    Posted 04-22-2011 01:03 PM


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    Richard Linderman AIA
    Principal
    The Linderman Group Architects, Inc.
    Media PA
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    Mr. Atkinson is correct that the IRC requires emergency escape windows in one an two family dwellings that are governed by the IRC. However; other residential occupancies (multifamily) are governed by the IBC which allows sleeping rooms without emergency escape windows. (See 2009 IRC 1029.) The original post related to a warehouse conversion that was most likely a R2 occupancy covered by the IBC.





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  • 5.  RE:Windowless apts

    Posted 04-26-2011 01:52 PM
    2006 IBC Section 1026 Emergence Escape and Rescue applies to Group R and I-1 occupancies for basements and sleeping rooms below the 4th story above the grade plane.


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    D. Cook AIA
    Tipp City OH
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