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  • 1.  Snow Grip - A New Product

    Posted 03-16-2011 04:17 PM
    This message has been cross posted to the following Discussion Forums: Historic Resources Committee and Residential Knowledge Community .
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    In response to Chris Turley and the ice / water condition, I may not fully understand the conditions you face Chris but a new product may eliminate the ice dam and the water source coming from the roof.  Take a look at this link http://www.snowgripit.com/ the product, Snow Grip, is an abrasive coating applied to roofs.  It holds the snow and ice buildup in place, on the roof, and still allows the melt to reach the gutter.  I personally know the patent holder, Mark Blomquist, an architect in the UP and I can assure you of his integrity behind the product.  You will also find youtube videos of the product.  Ping back if you need furhter info........

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    Dennis Garde Assoc. AIA, LEED AP
    Principal
    Energy Veritas Ltd
    Mt Prospect IL
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    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 2.  RE:Snow Grip - A New Product

    Posted 03-17-2011 07:39 AM

    Interesting product. Too bad I can't use it on restoration of 1894 library here in Maine. Monson slate roof with
    truly beautiful "snow fences"
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    M. Curt Sachs AIA
    Portland ME
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    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 3.  Snow Grip - A New Product

    Posted 03-26-2011 02:20 PM
    I welcome the comments and the opportunity to further highlight the proper use of Snowgrip.  Like every other material, product, or assembly that architects specify, or fail to specify correctly, the problems will long outlive the successes in terms of liability.  We acknowledge the use of any product on historic buildings require an extra level of diligence.

    In reference to the 140 year old slate roof mentioned in other comments, Snowgrip was not used on the building she discusses.  Our system remains flexible (600% elongation capability after cure).  Like all new products, Snowgrip needs more testing for many specific non-typical applications such as the 140 year old slate roof on a landmark building...We do know it has proven to be 100% effective in stopping snow slides on the roofs that have been treated to date....We have not installed on a slate roof yet.
     
    As far as structural collapse from excessive snow load, it is logical to expect the maximum load on the roof to occur as the last flake of a snow storm falls and before the moisture (water weight) is able to drain from the snow pack....Theoretically the max load shall be the same on a Snowgrip roof as a non Snowgrip roof....One of the best properties of Snowgrip is the ability to promote melt water drainage efficiently and safely from the roof without allowing the snow pack to slide...It promotes the dehydration and substantial weight reduction of the snow pack.  I would expect the recent collapses were associated with buildings that did not meet current code requirements or the load substantially exceeded the code required live load.  I would be surprised if the recent storms cause code snow load tables to be revised throughout the country.
     
    Not every building with a snow retention problem is an automatic fit for Snowgrip or any other system, but if a roof discharge just buried the family dog or worse, Snowgrip may be the right system even if the roof has 140 year old slate tile...research the problem...test it...solve the problem with the system that has the best pro to con ratio...If any cons are unacceptable, please find a new place for the dog house.
     
    This response is from the manufacturer, Mark Blomquist, an architect practicing in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.....the dog is safe by the way.....and they do get a bit of snow. 

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    Dennis Garde Assoc. AIA, LEED AP
    Principal
    Energy Veritas Ltd
    Mt Prospect IL
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    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13