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FTP alternatives - SKyDrive vs. Sharepoint or ??

  • 1.  FTP alternatives - SKyDrive vs. Sharepoint or ??

    Posted 07-26-2013 09:57 AM

    We are looking for a good replacement for FTP. There are many, but two were are wondering about are SkyDrive and Sharepoint as they appear to be available with our recent upgrade to Office 365.. Looking for comments on experience with either as an FTP replacement. (most important is access control).



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    Walter Zapor Assoc. AIA
    Senior Associate
    KCBA Architects Inc.
    Hatfield PA
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  • 2.  RE:FTP alternatives - SKyDrive vs. Sharepoint or ??

    Posted 07-29-2013 07:19 PM
    The SkyDrive you received with Office 365 should be SkyDrive Pro (different from the normal consumer SkyDrive that is similar to drop box).  SkyDrive Pro is actually an element of SharePoint, not a separate system.  It gives the drop-box like experience to the more powerful SharePoint system, as well as integration into the MS Office programs.  We are seeing a rather rapid increase in adoption of SharePoint within our industry and it is a great replacement to the "antiquated" FTP server, although SharePoint does require a greater investment up-front to be successful.  As for access control, SharePoint has extensive capability in this area.  Just be careful not to "over-control". Permissions can become overwhelming without a solid and consistent strategy.  My recommendation, if you are managing this in-house, find a sharepoint consultant in your area and "buy" some time from them to give you advise.  If you need a recommendation, I could provide a reference through separate email (prefer not to publicly endorse consultants through a forum post).

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    Travis Hamera AIA
    Project Manager
    Vanir CM
    Sacrmento, CA
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  • 3.  RE:FTP alternatives - SKyDrive vs. Sharepoint or ??

    Posted 08-07-2013 09:58 AM
    I'm intrigued by Travis' SkyDrive Pro/SharePoint implementation as we are also looking at moving to Office 365.  I will echo, from experience, that managing permissions in SharePoint can be a bit of a maze.  That is one of the big things I like about the solution we've been using for around a decade, Biscom Secure File Transfer (recently renamed from Biscom Delivery Server). http://www.biscom.com/sft/sft-index.htm 
    User management and permissions are baked into the solution in such a way that it requires almost no management.
    •  External users can self-register through the web page, creating there own username and password.  External users send rights are limited so it cannot be used as an open file sharing portal.
    • Internal users can use there same Active Directory account login.  Accounts can be set to expire after a set period of time.
    •  Only the recipient of the email notification regarding the posting of files has rights to access those files.  Additional recipients can be added later if needed.
    Additionally, there is integration with Outlook which makes creating and sending a file package as easy as sending an email with attachments, but the attachments never touch Exchange.

    We purchased the internal dedicated server version many years ago.  They now have a VM instance deployment and I believe also offer it as a hosted service.

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    Michael Chervenak
    Design Group Inc. Architects & Planners
    Columbus OH
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  • 4.  RE:FTP alternatives - SKyDrive vs. Sharepoint or ??

    Posted 07-30-2013 08:08 AM
    We have good results with Citrix's Sharefile product. Very easy to use & implement with some nice plug-ins for Outlook. I am interested to hear your thoughts on Sharepoint, since that is certainly a nice option with our recent move to Office 365.

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    Howard Lebold AIA
    Executive Vice President
    McGillin Architecture Inc.
    Philadelphia PA
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  • 5.  RE:FTP alternatives - SKyDrive vs. Sharepoint or ??

    Posted 07-31-2013 05:33 PM
    We have been using Sharepoint for a number of years.  It sometimes takes a bit to set it up fore everyone on the team depending on your security setup, but works well after that.  We use it from design through construction and find if flexible and straight forward.  I am currently working on a military project under construction where everyone has access to it from the client, contractor to our joint venture team. 

    We are currently looking at Nuforma which offers more advanced options, but requires everyone on the team to use the sytem for it to work effectively.

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    Peter Leoschke AIA
    Mead & Hunt Inc
    Madison WI
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  • 6.  RE:FTP alternatives - SKyDrive vs. Sharepoint or ??

    Posted 07-31-2013 05:49 PM
    Walt:

    We also have used Sharefile heavily for about 5 years. Compared to FTP it is much easier to manage and is more secure. The desktop and Outlook apps are very nice. In the Outlook app you can limit the size of attachments and unclog Exchange easily. Now planning to use it a the cloud delivery agent for Newforma. Like Howard (hi Howard!), we have had very good experience with Sharefile.

    No experience with Sharepoint for this kind of use.

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    Richard Speicher AIA
    Principal
    Weber Murphy Fox Architects
    Erie PA
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  • 7.  RE:FTP alternatives - SKyDrive vs. Sharepoint or ??

    Posted 08-02-2013 12:12 PM


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    Ed Pieterick AIA
    CH2M HILL
    CORVALLIS OR
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    We used FTP for years, drifted to SharePoint and ProjectWise.  Share Point has nice "web page" type options that can make quality "home pages" with links to company resources for our Communities of Practice and our enterprise activities. Projectwise is our file manageing cloud storage for our projects.  I personally like this combination. If your searching for a platform to manage the access to your internal and external work you might want to look deeper into these options. .






  • 8.  RE:FTP alternatives - SKyDrive vs. Sharepoint or ??

    Posted 08-05-2013 05:41 PM
    We set up an FTP using our own domain name, hosted on an internal computer in the office.  We use Filezilla Server (you can download and use it at no cost) to run the FTP Site.  Filezilla Server gives us full control over access and permissions.  The added benefit is that we can copy files directly to and from the various FTP "Sites," via our local network.  This is a no-cost solution, assuming you have a static IP address, and an old Windows XP box sitting around.

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    David Anderson AIA
    Anderson Kulwiec Appleby Architects
    Santa Paula CA
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  • 9.  RE:FTP alternatives - SKyDrive vs. Sharepoint or ??

    Posted 08-05-2013 08:14 PM
    We've transitioned entirely over to DropBox for all of our shared file access needs, including our network server and its ability to be used as a FTP. 

    For Word Documents that require a lot of collaboration, we've transitioned to Google Docs and drop the final product into Indesign when we have it where we want it. 

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    Evelyn Lee AIA
    Senior Strategist
    MKThink
    San Francisco CA

    Head Curator
    Practice of Architecture
    www.practiceofarchitecture.com
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  • 10.  RE:FTP alternatives - SKyDrive vs. Sharepoint or ??

    Posted 10-24-2013 08:15 AM
    We currently use Smartfile.com as an FTP equivalent.  Its relatively easy to navigate and inexpensive.  It has reasonable access controls but requires each external user to have a distinct name and password for each project directory.  This can be confusing as the same engineers have a dozen or more credentials.  We are very seriously looking at SharePoint as part of Office 365.  In a trial mode now.   The goal is to set up a site for each project.  This seems very doable, but my biggest concern is how this administered in a 50 person office.    Leaving access controls up to the PMs will probably be disastrous for security and admin.  We might have to have an admin person handle access requests.  Would appreciate any feedback on others who have done this. 

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    Stephen Clayman AIA
    Lavallee Brensinger Architects
    Manchester NH
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