Committee on Design

Susan Haviland is a voice of sanity and sensibility.  I agree with her as well, and hope that the tone of discourse overall in this forum and others can rise to her level.

Odd... I looked to make some sense out of her comments, but instead found arrogance, cynicism, and disdain for most of the world. I looked for sensibility, but found callous disregard for the ethics of my profession.
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Charles Graham AIA
Architect
O'Neal, Inc.
Greenville SC
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Susan Haviland's comments are very much of the same belief as mine that I had voiced earlier.  Like her, I don't like the idea of being drawn into an argument but am compelled to respond to Charles Graham's response.  I'm failing to see this 'arrogance, cynicism, and disdain for most of the world' that Mr. Graham claims Ms Haviland purports.  Furthermore, Mr. Graham's earlier comment in this thread of his perception that with the Record 'there seems to be an unhealthy obsession with foreign designers'  could itself be interpreted as a disdain for most of the world. 

In terms of Mr. Graham's comments that he is finding 'callous disregard for the ethics of (his) profession' seems to me a stirring of the pot in a vein not related to what the supporters of the AR Houses have intended when commenting about the issue.

All comments aside, the AR Houses issue is thought provoking and is in the vanguard.  I support AR for keeping the profession actively engaged.
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David Saul AIA
Associate
Stantec, Inc.
Red Deer AB
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Original Message:
Sent: 05-03-2011 19:58
From: Charles Graham
Subject: Record Houses


Odd... I looked to make some sense out of her comments, but instead found arrogance, cynicism, and disdain for most of the world. I looked for sensibility, but found callous disregard for the ethics of my profession.
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Charles Graham AIA
Architect
O'Neal, Inc.
Greenville SC
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Kudos to architects Saul and Haviland for the thoughtful comments. It is a pity that this forum is sidelined responding to ridiculous rants rather than discussing design, which happens to be it's ostensible purpose. Arch Record is a magazine produced by a private business. No one is required to read it. Are not the editors free to publish what they wish, or do those kvetching wish to censor the content? If you do not like what they do, simply don't subscribe. Or better yet, start your own magazine, which of course would avoid "foreign" influence and diligently vet the homes for code compliance. Seriously...

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Gregory Ibanez AIA
Principal
Ibañez Architecture LLC
Fort Worth TX
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Original Message:
Sent: 05-04-2011 11:22
From: David Saul
Subject: Record Houses

Susan Haviland's comments are very much of the same belief as mine that I had voiced earlier.  Like her, I don't like the idea of being drawn into an argument but am compelled to respond to Charles Graham's response.  I'm failing to see this 'arrogance, cynicism, and disdain for most of the world' that Mr. Graham claims Ms Haviland purports.  Furthermore, Mr. Graham's earlier comment in this thread of his perception that with the Record 'there seems to be an unhealthy obsession with foreign designers'  could itself be interpreted as a disdain for most of the world. 

In terms of Mr. Graham's comments that he is finding 'callous disregard for the ethics of (his) profession' seems to me a stirring of the pot in a vein not related to what the supporters of the AR Houses have intended when commenting about the issue.

All comments aside, the AR Houses issue is thought provoking and is in the vanguard.  I support AR for keeping the profession actively engaged.
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David Saul AIA
Associate
Stantec, Inc.
Red Deer AB
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Some people tend to confuse "vanguard design" with the inability to design, at all. Fortunately, I have ended my supscription to that magazine, in support of other magazines that reinforce the design profession.

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Charles Graham AIA
Architect
O'Neal, Inc.
Greenville SC
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Original Message:
Sent: 05-04-2011 15:57
From: Gregory Ibanez
Subject: Record Houses

Kudos to architects Saul and Haviland for the thoughtful comments. It is a pity that this forum is sidelined responding to ridiculous rants rather than discussing design, which happens to be it's ostensible purpose. Arch Record is a magazine produced by a private business. No one is required to read it. Are not the editors free to publish what they wish, or do those kvetching wish to censor the content? If you do not like what they do, simply don't subscribe. Or better yet, start your own magazine, which of course would avoid "foreign" influence and diligently vet the homes for code compliance. Seriously...

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Gregory Ibanez AIA
Principal
Ibañez Architecture LLC
Fort Worth TX
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Original Message:
Sent: 05-04-2011 11:22
From: David Saul
Subject: Record Houses

Susan Haviland's comments are very much of the same belief as mine that I had voiced earlier.  Like her, I don't like the idea of being drawn into an argument but am compelled to respond to Charles Graham's response.  I'm failing to see this 'arrogance, cynicism, and disdain for most of the world' that Mr. Graham claims Ms Haviland purports.  Furthermore, Mr. Graham's earlier comment in this thread of his perception that with the Record 'there seems to be an unhealthy obsession with foreign designers'  could itself be interpreted as a disdain for most of the world. 

In terms of Mr. Graham's comments that he is finding 'callous disregard for the ethics of (his) profession' seems to me a stirring of the pot in a vein not related to what the supporters of the AR Houses have intended when commenting about the issue.

All comments aside, the AR Houses issue is thought provoking and is in the vanguard.  I support AR for keeping the profession actively engaged.
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David Saul AIA
Associate
Stantec, Inc.
Red Deer AB
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