Housing and Community Development

 View Only
Expand all | Collapse all

Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

  • 1.  Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-04-2011 11:05 AM
    Dear AIA,
    Where are you and what are you doing for me?  Please refer to the below link--apparently I did not have to get a college degree, go through internship, take an unnecessary licensing exam, or accumulate over twenty years of experience to become a residential architect.  I could have just called myself a "Building Designer" and been good to go. 

    I am absolutely outraged--just read the first sentence and you can see why this is so wrong.  I already need to deal with contractors whose "cousin took a drafting class and can draw plans for a lot less than that pricey architect"--apparently now I need to deal with anyone who has CAD on their computer. 

    I had serious questions about whether I should renew my AIA membership.  The ONE THING I want the AIA to do is to protect my professional interests.  Has the AIA completely given up on residential architects?  If they have not, then I would hope to see a correction to this article stating that in most areas an architect's stamp is still required.  If not that, then at least some level of architectural education.  According to this article, you don't even need either.  


    http://architecture.about.com/cs/careers/f/homedesigner.htm
    -------------------------------------------
    Mary Holley AIA
    President
    ma2 architects
    Basalt CO
    -------------------------------------------
    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 2.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-05-2011 01:38 AM
    I see nothing wrong with the first sentence, or in general anything else in the article.  To my knowledge, most states do not require houses or small buildings to be designed by architects, nor do they require "some level of architectural education" for those people who do design them.  If some states do require that, then yes, the article should have stated that.  And if you want the article to mention that, go ahead and request that yourself--there's no need for the request to come from the AIA.

    Except in the case of any states that may require home designers to have an architectural license, yes, you can bypass a college degree, internship and licensing test, and call yourself a "building designer" and be good to go. And no state requires twenty years experience to become a residential architect, as you write.  

    There is a separate issue of whether states SHOULD require houses and small buildings to be designed by architects.  I believe they should not.  The way for architects to obtain residential commissions is to show that they offer superior services to clients than non-architects, rather than attempting to make design of houses and small buildings by non-architects illegal.    

    -------------------------------------------
    Michael Dowd AIA
    Architect
    Dowd Architecture, Inc
    Portland OR
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 3.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-07-2011 10:58 AM
    In response to Mr. Dowd, all structures where the health and life safety is a concern, a true professional should be required to oversee documentation and construction.    I live in a high wind zone resulting from hurricanes. Even the smallest accessory structure needs the thought and design of a professional whether it be an architect or engineer (as this can turn into a projectile with the force of a missile).  Does "Professional Home Designer" mean you are a really professional?

    -------------------------------------------
    Catherine Lorentz AIA
    Architect
    C A Lorentz Architect
    Cape May Court House NJ
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 4.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-05-2011 07:19 AM
    Residential work provides the most numerous jobs by far, this sector makes far more money than commercial, and regular folks are likely to only engage in the design of their own residence and not very likely to be involved in the design of a commercial building. We're missing out on the most clients, money, and face time with the public by ignoring this sector. We're idiots!

    This profession will never improve until we make a serious effort to cast a wider net. For the life of me I fail understand what our hang up is. Do we really think all the Walmarts, McDonalds, Exxons, strip malls, etc. are projects with more integrity than a residence, just because this corporate junk is commercial? How many of you have never designed a house? Most of my friends in the biz haven't. Is it fear? How many of you have been enamored with the famous residences of Wright, Johnson, Neutra, Schindler, etc.? What's the hang up?

    Our profession is weak because we lack numbers, because only a small fraction of the public interacts with us, and because we actually think the AIA is capable of doing things other professional organizations do that have the latter. Complaining about the AIA not doing anything when they're just as crippled as their members is barking up the wrong tree. The AIA will learn to give it's members what they want within their means or they will waste away into irrelevance. If they want to continue existing they will recognize what their PAYING members want and need from them. I haven't given up yet, but I don't blame the dissatisfied customers who are leaving the group. I'll bet this recession has cut membership in half, so what do you expect right now?

    Mr. Holley, I do battle with designers everyday. I have several builders convinced that it's better to pay me a little more and get the job done right. Most of these people have little to no structural knowledge and can't draw a framing plan to save their lives. Their solutions are amateurish at best. I've been putting my name with "AIA" on my yard signs and people in my area have come to learn this means Professional Architect. Many erroneously think you must have AIA after your name to be licensed. If it's just on a card, then your wallet and a few other people see AIA, but all the neighbors wonder why my name on the sign has the three little letters and the others do not. I make a point of setting myself apart from the Designers every day in every way. 

    -------------------------------------------
    Eric Rawlings AIA
    Owner
    Rawlings Design, Inc.
    Decatur GA
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 5.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-05-2011 08:33 AM
    Perhaps those lay people considering this "venture" should consider this statement from the Code of Hammurabi, which is referenced as basic tenant of today's common law - "If a builder has built a house for a man, and has not made his work sound, and the house he built has fallen, and caused the death of it's owner, that builder shall be put to death."

    As we know by today's legal interpretation, "builder" includes the extended involvement of the "designer" as well - and "death" is not literal, but financial and social. As it hangs over our heads, it should theirs as well.

    -------------------------------------------
    William Huey
    Bill Huey + Associates
    Charleston SC
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 6.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-05-2011 08:57 AM
    Mary;

    This is the result of what we, the entire architectural profession, have done to ourselves in the realm of house design and residential architecture. We have placed ourselves upon an ivory tower of "fine design." We have celebrated modernist junk and ignored the fine lessons of hundreds of years of residential design based upon our egotistical view that we know better than all the architects of the past. We have let our big egos make us difficult to work with to the point of making the house design process harder if we are involved. AIA has been worse than no where on this issue. In fact, they are continuing to promote the "architect wonderful" syndrome that has been a cancer on our profession.

    We have ridiculed those in our profession who take a "client oriented" approach to the delivery of services and celebrated the "rock star" architects. We abdicated our role as the central, critical player who coordinates and leads the entire process. As a result, we have left a vacuum that the builders and home designers have stepped into. If we had remained in the central position and did our jobs properly, they never could have assumed the role we now criticize them for taking.

    Our clients are the judges of what is valuable. We think our great designs are the most valuable thing we offer. But our clients (actually our customers) expect a great design. It's like buying a car and expecting it to actually run. But they view the most valuable thing we do to be the guidance, advice, and leadership we should bring to the entire home design and construction process. People hate paying for things they "have to" buy and they are eager to pay for things the "want to" buy. If homeowners are not wanting to buy our services, that means they do not see us as being valuable. And the customer is always right. When they say that architects are costly, unnecessary, and just one more ego to soothe, they are probably right.

    We can not defend against the competition from home designers by legislating them away. In fact, in many cases they provide a more valuable service, in the eyes of the client/customer, than we do. And who's fault is that? OURS!  Our best defense of our professional turf is to imporve our services, raise our value, learn our profession better, become true experts, particularly in the nuts and bolts aspects of homebuilding, and simply out-expert the home designers, kitchen designers, and draftsman.

    I can tell you that my personal experience has borne this out. The success of my book, Designing Your Perfect House, proves it. In this book, I attempt to de-mystify the entire design process. I explain why some designs work and some do not. I also explain what value an architect brings to the process and the difference between an architect and a house designer. I try to empower the homeowner with knowledge of what to expect and how to select the right people to give them the best service. The response has been overwhelming. Homeowners are hungry for great advice and guidance. But despite my book sitting at #1 on Amazon's bestseller lists for two years running, AIA has refused to carry it in the AIA Bookstore. It's just amazing how tone deaf they can be.

    It's up to us, the architects and our professional organization, to provide the service and advice people value and want. If we do that, our profession can establish itself as critically important to any home design project.

    I hope some of our leaders in AIA are listening to these discussions.
    -------------------------------------------
    William Hirsch AIA
    William J. Hirsch Jr. Architect
    Cary NC
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 7.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-05-2011 09:21 AM

    Ms. Holley-
    Thank you for sharing such an interesting article...

    Now we know who to blame for the decline of high design of residential architecture in the US.

    Dear AIA,
    You had better get on this fast.  Architects need to be involved in the design of buildings that people occupy.  In some states, an architectural stamp is not even required to get a building permit for certain types of dwellings.  No wonder we have slums, and homes collapsing around their homeowners.

    AIA, this is something we should be looking into as an organization, both to educate Americans and provide design services to everyone.


    -------------------------------------------
    Drew Weigl Assoc. AIA, LEED AP
    Dickinson Architects
    Augusta GA
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 8.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-05-2011 10:21 AM
    Mary Holley is dead on about this. If I had a dollar for every project we'd lost to that CAD trainee (or online plans--now THERE'S a racket)--well, I wouldn't be rich, but I'd certainly be better off than I am today. We sell our training, experience, skill and talent to the best of our ability--but when a potential client is looking at a 75% or more reduction in fees, it's no contest. We recently lost a 6,000+SF, $1.6M home to an online plan provider whose plans the client purchased for (drum roll, please) $1,200 (that's .0075% of the budget, folks). The design is awkward, but the client is very happy about the savings. Face it: what they don't know about the design's shortcomings won't hurt them in the long run--but it will slowly degrade the quality of residential architecture and eventually kill the business. Where's the AIA on this?

    -------------------------------------------
    Robert Silarski AIA
    Principal
    S&Co. ' Architecture + Design
    Nyack NY
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 9.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-05-2011 10:35 AM
    Ms. Holley's comment is right on:  The AIA must work to get architects, with the required creativity, technical proficiency, and responsibility more involved in America's residential building process.  Allowing the perception that it's somehow OK for residential 'Building Designers' to slip 'under the radar' has resulted in a housing stock which celebrates ostentation and consumption, rather than enhances the lives of residents, improves community, and achieves a sustainable balance with the environment. 

    We, as architects, are trained to examine and balance all of these factors.  Our responsibility and liabilty, will, and must grow in the future.  The AIA should be in the trenches with us, the architects who design the structures which comprise the vast majority of the building stock.  Focusing on trophy structures by starchitects make for great eye candy, but will doom the AIA, and we its members, to service of only the wealthy elite while the rest of the industry goes about the business of housing the country.

    -------------------------------------------
    Robert Sanders AIA
    President
    Rob Sanders Architects LLC
    Wilton CT
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 10.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-05-2011 10:44 AM
    Mary,

    The newly formed AIA National Small Firm Round Table (SFRT) has a task group that is working on outreach to educate the public on the value of an architect. Our target market is for the projects that by law do not require an architect, residential and small commercial. We are working on a series of short 2-3 minute videos and will post them on you tube. Any suggestions that you have are welcome! 

    We will be meeting at the convention next week on Thursday from 1-3 in rooms 335 & 336. Please join us to share your thoughts and find out what our round table is doing. 

    If you are not coming to the convention - join us on knowledge net http://network.aia.org/AIA/SmallFirmRoundTable/Home/

    -------------------------------------------
    Jane Frederick AIA
    Principal
    Frederick & Frederick Architects
    Beaufort SC
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 11.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-05-2011 01:10 PM
    I strongly disagree. Architects do not have a protected market in the single family residence and small multifamily residential market (typically up to 3-4 units) by tradition and law. It is a design and construction market with a very low threshold of entry. It's cowboy land out there, and this is not going to change. If you are working in this market you are competing against every-one from the contractor who has purchased a basic CAD program to someone with a year of drafting training at community college to the recently laid-off architect with 25 years hospital design experience to the high profile architecture firms with a residential practice to interior designers trying to expand their market. It is a very unfettered and open market, and personally I feel that is how it should be. As architects, we should bring a higher level of service, better design quality and superior technical expertise to our clients. That is really  our selling point, not looking to to the AIA to coerce local governments to provide us with market protection based on credentials.

    -------------------------------------------
    Brian Gary AIA
    Brian Gary Architecture
    Seattle WA
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 12.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-05-2011 02:22 PM

    Mary, this is apalling and offensive - have you informed both your local AIA and National about this?
    -------------------------------------------
    Heather Johnston AIA
    Principal
    Heather Johnston Architect
    La Jolla CA
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 13.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-05-2011 03:19 PM
    Frankly, Mary, I'm surprised that it took you 20 years to fully realize that the AIA HAS given up leadership in the residential design market, and given up supporting the small-residential-design practitioner...the AIA has become: conventions, conferences, and codes - oh my!
    -------------------------------------------
    George Tracy AIA, NCARB, LEED AP
    Senior Associate
    Hermes Architects, Inc.
    Houston TX
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 14.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-05-2011 04:12 PM
    George,

    Take a look at this webpage:
    http://network.aia.org/AIA/AIA/Discussions/AllDiscussions/Default.aspx

    It lists three AIA sanctioned Knowledge Community or affinity discussion groups and one Member created discussion group on KnowledgeNet that I think relate to residential design firms: this one the Residential Knowledge Community, the Small Projects Practitioners, the Small Firm Roundtable, and CRAN.

    SPP and RKC are numbers 2 and 3 in number of posts, behind only Practice Management in the KC category. CRAN is second in the number of posts on member created groups, and has the largest number of subscribers. I'm also representing my region on the Small Firm Roundtable and I think it's fair to say that we have not given up on residential architecture, although it seems like some of the posters here today have.

    While I'm writing this, I have a copy of Hanley-Wood's "residential architect: a magazine of the american institute of architects", sitting on my desk. I also get an electronic copy of HW's EcoHome magazine, which also says it's a magazine of the AIA.

    It's not just about the conventions and conferences, but if you checked out the convention program online, you'd see that there is an AIA Small Projects Awards program, house tours, programs on residential design, a networking party for SPP and CRAN members (or those interested in joining), AIA CRAN Forum and AIA Small Firm Roundtable Forum and probably a few others that I've missed. Yeah, I'd ;like to see more focus on residential design, but I'm sure those of us that design hospitals want to see more programs about designing hospitals.  And if you want more programs on residential design, maybe you ought to put one together and make it thought provoking enough so that an audience finds you.

    I don't think AIA has given up on residential design practices at all. It's easy to be glib or flippant about this, much harder to actually do something about the problem.
    -------------------------------------------
    David Del Vecchio AIA
    Architect
    David Del Vecchio, Architect, LLC
    Cranford NJ
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 15.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-05-2011 06:34 PM
    While it does frustrate me that non-architects are able to work on residential structures without being licensed, it also frustrates me to read this kind of criticism of the AIA. As a matter of fact, Ms. Holley's first sentence offended me. "Dear AIA, Where are you and what are you doing for me?" The AIA is not made up of a bunch of office workers in cubicles in Washington, DC. WE are the AIA.

    In fact, I am part of the Custom Residential Architects Network (CRAN) steering committee, and am pleased to let everyone know that CRAN know that we received word from the AIA today that, due to our committee's hard work, we are being granted Knowledge Community status. I believe that this affirms the importance of custom residential practitioners within our profession.

    If you're not already a member of the CRAN discussion group, I invite you to join us at www.aia.org/cran.

    -------------------------------------------
    Dawn Zuber AIA
    Owner
    Studio Z Architecture
    Canton MI
    -------------------------------------------
    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 16.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-05-2011 07:04 PM
    Oops, somehow the link to the CRAN discussion group included the period I placed at the end of my sentence. The correct link should be:

    www.aia.org/cran

    Also, CRAN will be a KC effective June 1, 2011.

    -------------------------------------------
    Dawn Zuber AIA
    Owner
    Studio Z Architecture
    Canton MI
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 17.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-09-2011 09:53 AM
    After I received a suggestion that I actually do more than complain about this article, I contacted the author.  I let her know that I felt that the article left out some pretty important points.  To summarize: 1.  Many municipalities require an architect's stamp; 2. By stating that certification was not required she gave the impression that anyone with little or no education could start designing houses and 3.  Anyone who designes homes (or anything for that matter) exposes themselves to a lot of liability.  I suggested that she emphasize the importance of experience and education to set potential designers up for greater success. 

    Remarkably, the author wrote back.  She said they would consider expanding the article to address the concerns I raised. 

    I guess the moral of this story is that it's easy to sit back and expect the AIA to take care of all these issues. However, since we all are members of the AIA then we need to realize that some of the responsibility lies with us as individuals.  So thanks David for your suggestion that I get more involved in protecting my own interests. 


    -------------------------------------------
    Mary Holley AIA
    President
    ma2 architects
    Basalt CO
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 18.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-11-2011 02:27 PM
    Dear David,

    Take a closer look at the EcoHome Magazine website.  Right under the text "A magazine of the American Institute of Architects" is a row of tabs and a bar of links.  The middle link on the right says "House Plans" and this link takes you to the Hanley-Wood site, "Builder House Plans, The #1 source of house plans for the home building industry."   There you will find for sale thousands of the schlocky builder house plans that so deeply grieve architects.  The price ranges from $750 for blueprints to about $2,000 for CAD files.

    The AIA is effectively endorsing Hanley Wood's Builder House Plans business.  The AIA is lending its good name to Hanley Wood to help it sell builder house plans.  Builder House Plans directly undercuts and competes with residential architects.  Need I say it?  The AIA is undercutting its own members.

    Now take a look at the Hanley-Wood corporate website and go to About Us, History.  Hanley-Wood's entire history is about acquisitions.  In 2005 it was bought by JP Morgan Partners, a private equity arm of JP Morgan Chase, where "Closing represents second largest B-to-B media deal in US history."  It seems to me that the AIA is Hanley-Wood/JP Morgan Partners' latest acquisition.  I wonder who got paid and how much for this "deal."

    -------------------------------------------
    Tobin Weaver AIA
    Owner
    Tobin Weaver, Architect PC
    Portland OR
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 19.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-06-2011 01:00 PM

    I so agree with Mary Holley.  First of all, who writes this stuff?  A Professional Home Designer may be legal in some places but certainly not all states, and the author should make it clear to review the laws and standards in each state.  I never actually heard of this before until I started reading these things in the residential AIA forum.  We absolutly need to get the AIA to help with this and, like I believe we have in NJ, require a licenced architect for ALL construction (other than you drawing your own home).  I have received calls from builders for things as small as an interior bathroom remodel where some inspectors require a seal.  Sometimes it goes a bit far but in this economy, I will take it..  The AIA should be all over this!
    -------------------------------------------
    Thomas Wagner AIA
    Thomas B. Wagner, Architect
    Haddonfield NJ
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 20.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-10-2011 09:14 PM
    We should all be all over this. Small residential jobs can be very profitable if you get in and out quickly. This is like paid community service. We should all spend some face time with our neighbors once in a while just to promote the profession and ourselves. Because we don't, the amateurs do and now the regular guy's expectations of what a building should be is determined by the hacks. We should be setting the design bar for all buildings! I'm sorry, but average Americans have terrible taste, in part, because we ignore them, we starve them of good design. This is ultimately reflected in their expectations for commercial buildings as well. We need to find a way to tap into this work, not for the money as much as for the marketing to the masses who don't know who we are or what we do or why we can make a huge difference in the way they live and enjoy their lives.

    At the height of the building boom there were six single family dwellings built for each multifamily unit. One firm with a team of three can handle a 200 unit multifamily project, while 1200 individual dwellings were being designed by someone and most likely many were repeated over and over. Imagine if we had some control over what gets stamped and permitted. Imagine an America where the built residential aesthetic isn't mostly determined by a builder flipping through a catalogue full of Cracker Barrel fashion, but by the trained professionals. Imagine the Death of the Plan Book?

    Yes, the AIA and all of us should be all over this. Think of all the residential designers that would have to get licensed if they want to practice. We would expand our numbers and our AIA MEMBERSHIP! This should be a no brainer for the AIA! Is there no desire to double the membership numbers? The other option is to repeat history and devise yet another service we won't get paid for, but we'll increase our liability while chasing the same exact limited customer base. A proven failure that might work if all conditions are perfect and we tweak the plan just right this time. Churchill once said that the Americans always do the right thing after they exhaust all other possibilities first. Please tell me we've exhausted all the other failed possibilities so we can get it right during my lifetime.

    -------------------------------------------
    Eric Rawlings AIA
    Owner
    Rawlings Design, Inc.
    Decatur GA
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 21.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-07-2011 12:38 PM
    -------------------------------------------
    John Dugger AIA
    Principal Architect
    J S Dugger, AIA & Associates
    Gloucester MA
    -------------------------------------------

    If a simple discussion of Business 101 is censored by our own general council for fear of violating the almighty consent decree, how can there be tolerance for a quack organization like NCPBD?

    This is nothing more than an end run around every state's rights to govern licensure and hence our public safety!

    I challenge our legal department to figure a way to challenge NCPBDs existence or resign.

    In most states the words "building design" in advertising equals practicing architecture. Dong so without a license is a felony. Where else but in DC could you find a quasi official operation encouraging illegal activity?

    Perhaps it is not our organization that is broken but the thinking of people running it.

    JSD/aia, MBA member since 1982



    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 22.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-11-2011 10:59 AM

    I have to completely agree with Mary, and wonder why the AIA hasn't acted before on this issue.  My main practice is in Mississippi that has no state wide building code adopted.  Building code is left up to the cities/counties to adopt and enforce. While most major cities have, Mississippi is still a largely rural and out in some counties you are on your own on how you choose to build. The paraphrasing of our state law is that any size house and a commercial building up to 5,000 sq ft can be built without a licensed professional stamp.  

    I am fine with home designers making design decisions, but frankly, too many of them are making structural decisions when it comes to houses and small commercial buildings.   The home builders' lobby is a powerful one, but ours should be too on this issue.  Our main focus should be on the safety of the public not the bottom line of the developers and home builders. 

    At least this is how I see it.

    -------------------------------------------
    Jeffrey Seabold AIA, NCARB, LEED Green Associate
    Seabold Architectural Studio
    Jackson MS
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 23.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-12-2011 02:41 AM
    I have a good friend who is a, well, I guess the best description would be a "Professional Home Designer." She was trained as an architect in Europe (but I don't know if she was ever licensed there). She is now a US citizen. When she got here she made a conscious decision to practice as a designer rather than tackle the licensing exam. She prefers it and I must say it's an appealing model. She is an extremely accomplished designer and her clients adore her. She always works with a licensed structural engineer and in addition always hires a licensed architect to produce and stamp the final drawings as architect of record. Her permit submittals are impeccable. She rarely gets a single comment. The architect she is currently working with is always asking her to help him with his own projects, which tend to be convoluted and unbuildable. He considers working for her to be not only remunerative but educational as well.

    In the corner of California where we both practice an architect's (or engineer's) stamp is required for all projects. And I am a big supporter of that being a requirement all across the country for many reasons. But make no mistake. In no way will it keep talented home designers from having flourishing practices. And in no way will it keep talented home designers from being your competition. There's only one way around that and it doesn't involve the AIA. You have to be better than they are.

    -------------------------------------------
    Susan Haviland AIA
    Haviland Studio
    Palo Alto CA
    -------------------------------------------


    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 24.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-16-2011 02:12 PM

    Since I work in the same corner of California, there are a few points that may be worthy of consideration:

    1) While I don't doubt this "Professional Home Designer's" competency, the fact remains that she hasn't jumped through the same hoops that the licensed folks had to. She is not paying professional-level dues to the AIA, nor is she paying annual state license fees, and she is not being held to the same standard of care that a licensed professional would be. She didn't have to pay for a similar level of training and internship in the U.S. She can afford to charge less fees than a licensed professional can, because her expenses are less. It is not a level playing field.

    2) While one unlicensed person may be fairly (or even extremely) competent, there is no objective way to demonstrate this to the public without some form of test or licensure. As a residential architect, I recently lost a sizable project to a financial planner who does home design in his spare time (I just couldn't compete with his fees), and recently have been up against a woman who enjoyed managing her own kitchen remodeling project so much that she started a business designing and managing other's projects. (This last one, my client had some common sense and declined the amateur.) The point is that the public really doesn't understand the need for at least minimal training, is often unable to judge competent design, and will leap at the opportunity to save money when it's offered to them on a platter because they don't fully understand the tradeoffs. (hint, hint, to the AIA.)

    3) If residential design were JUST about aesthetics (and some small projects are--mostly), then maybe everyone should have an equal shot at getting the job. But usually it is far more than this, and frankly, I consider residential design to be as challenging as the hospitals I used to design, although in a different way. If someone proclaims themself to be "just as good as an architect", what is the problem in letting them demonstrate it? The "marketplace" is really not an effective judge of competency. We ALL have to live with amateurish eyesores (and I am not disregarding some that were perpetrated by licensed architects) for a long time, and I think that the public domain deserves better than having the legal "right" to put up whatever ignorant folly a homeowner comes up with, imposed upon it. It's ironic to me that the AIA isn't insisting on licensure for interior designers, with the interior designers adamantly opposing it.

    -------------------------------------------
    Richard Morrison AIA
    Richard Morrison, AIA, ASID
    Redwood City CA
    ------------------------------------------


    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 25.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-17-2011 01:55 AM
    Incidentally, does anyone here think that IDP or the ARE should be changed to incorporate specific sections on residential design or construction?  What about a new CEU requirement for all licensed architects similar to the recent ones on sustainable design?  Let's say that everyone has to get at least 3 hours of residential continuing education each year--that would surely enhance the number of residential offerings at AIA Convention.

    I mean, if we're going to make the case that architectural education, training and licensure are necessary prerequisites for homes of any size in any state, shouldn't we be able to point to some substantive residential content that's built in to those requirements?

    So can we start to make a list here of specific requirements that licensed architects share and that we think collectively make the case that single family residential projects in particular should require an architect's stamp? 


    -------------------------------------------
    Casius Pealer Assoc. AIA
    Principal
    Oystertree Consulting
    New Orleans LA
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 26.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-17-2011 12:19 PM
    Casius,
    I would argue that virtually everything that applies to "standard" large scale architectural practice is ALL relevant to residential, although perhaps at a smaller scale.

    1) Structural design: beams, shearwalls, concrete foundations.
    2) Stair design and egress
    3) Ventilation, both attic/crawlspace and air quality.
    4) Lighting
    5) Finishes and how they perform under different circumstances.
    5) Dealing with code issues with building officials
    6) Coordination of multiple consultants and buildable construction documents.
    etc., etc.

    Recently on a kitchen remodeling in a condo building, I was able to go into the building department and argue persuasively that the fire shrouds (demanded by the building department) for recessed can lights were not actually mandated given the sprinklered building and fire-resistive requirements, pointing to the appropriate sections in the Code. I saved the client about $5K on that item alone. (there were a LOT of cans that the lighting designer spec'd. ;) ) But what kitchen designer is going to do that, or is even ABLE to do that? (Let alone finding one who actually OWNS a copy of the building code.)

    Maybe a better question is what area did you learn about in architectural school that you DON'T think has relevance to residential work?

    -------------------------------------------
    Richard Morrison AIA
    Richard Morrison, AIA, ASID
    Redwood City CA
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 27.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-17-2011 01:07 PM
    My underlying question is whether we truly think it makes sense to have a single required education-training-exam-continuing ed process for architects/designers of buildings of all sizes and locations and program types, from a single family house to a 100-story skyscraper to a hospital complex to an amusement park. 

    States typically require a different license to drive a taxi cab than they require to drive a semi trailer.  Lots of the requisite skills overlap, but there are specialized skills and regulations for each as well.  States could have one single "comprehensive driver's license" that covered all motorized vehicles, but the costs and benefits of such a unified policy are (presumably) significantly out of whack.  That same kind of policy outcome--costs simply outweigh the benefits--seems likely similar to the outcome of a policy analyst's thinking about requiring that one of our nation's 100,000 licensed architects design each of the roughly 600,000 new homes that were permitted in 2010.  For instance.

    I'm not saying that we shouldn't push state legislatures to require architecture licenses for for single family homes.  I'm saying that a state legislator might reasonably push back by questioning why she would vote to require one single license to design such a wide range of building types and complexities, especially without an apparent health/safety crisis in the area this new regulatory expansion would cover.

    I understand the concern that folks who offer to design houses be licensed or certified in some way, and I would love to see more architect-designed houses.  But I don't know that I can argue that (a) 5-8 years of college education, (b) 3-5 years of training under a licensed architect, (c) completion of a multipart national exam, and (d) annual continuing education requirements, should be the minimum required by a town in Louisiana where I live, to put up a house.  Especially when very few of those steps (a)-(d) are required to focus on residential issues and instead typically focus on larger scale commercial issues.

    Just looking for help on whether we really think that's what should be legally required, or if there's not some more targeted set of skills and experiences that we can propose to a particular state. 

    casius.


    -------------------------------------------
    Casius Pealer Assoc. AIA
    Principal
    Oystertree Consulting
    New Orleans LA
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 28.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-18-2011 07:31 AM
    For the life of me, I really don't understand why we make single family dwellings into such a special little monster. They are buildings like any other. I reject this argument that houses are any less difficult to design than a convenient store, a bank, a small office, a restaurant, a BIG BOX WAREHOUSE STORE, etc. I've worked on many commercial projects are no more difficult to design than a house! Where does the amateur's argument end? In GA, they can design limited commercial buildings too, so when will we just roll over and let them take more? Time is marching on, society is become more complex, we are no longer a nation of self-sufficient farmers! City dwellers are the most numerous now and the safety and welfare of the people is becoming more and more at risk. What will it take, a BP like disaster in housing? A Beverly Hills Supper Club Fire?

    I'm entirely sick and tired of OUR loathsome attitude towards ourselves. WE are the only ones who question whether we are as good as residential designers, whether we should be designing houses. The builders all know WE are better, just like they know an I-joist is better than a 2x12. They use the 2x12 if everyone else is building spans that are short and economical, but if everyone is offering less compartmentalized houses with large spans, they use the more expensive, better quality I-joist. We just aren't convincing them that they need something better. It is our fault as terrible business people that we aren't convincing them that we can make them more competitive. At least some of us. 

    I have never listened to so many intellectual idiots talking themselves out of work at a time when our profession is rotting on the vine, talking us all out of increasing our potential, not by a little bit, but the opportunity to more than double our numbers. Single family dwellings are far more numerous than all the commercial buildings put together and we ignore this resource of available work because we think we're special. We're the ones that are supposed to be so smart, yet the dumb builder who didn't finish high school or the agent that found a second career in her 40s are all making much more money than us. Everyone interacts with them, they make themselves necessary, legally! What do we do? We have philosophical conversations about how many bullets we can shoot though our feet until there's nothing's left. We talk about why it is better to give away the largest, most lucrative piece of the pie because we're the smart ones.

    The last thing we need to do is further separate ourselves from residential work. It would be deadly to our profession to give a special license to residential designers, rather than incorporate them into the profession itself. All too often have we created other, more lucrative professions by trying to make ourselves more special and above it. Our first reaction is to give something away, rather than be the one who takes it. We are getting walked on by every profession in the industry and we're supposed to be on top. What a bunch of wimps we are. I'm sickened by our lack of self worth. How many types of Architects do we need? I'm a bank Architect. I have my Walmart BIG BOX license! Do you have you McFast Food License yet? Where does the separating end and moreover, WHY DO SO MANY OF YOU HATE RESIDENTIAL WORK SO MUCH??? Are you afraid of a little ol' stick frame building? I've never heard so much loser talk and excuse making as to why we shouldn't design more buildings. If you can inhabit it, an Architect should be designing it! PERIOD! (exclamation point)



    -------------------------------------------
    Eric Rawlings AIA
    Owner
    Rawlings Design, Inc.
    Decatur GA
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 29.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-19-2011 08:32 AM

    I disagree with the notion that residential design is easier than commercial design. I've spend forty years doing both. Maybe bad, thoughtless residential design is easier. Designing a commercial building is like designing a box. Designing a good house is like designing a jewel box. Everything is unique and everything has to fit together perfectly. Add to that the psychology of creating "home" and you have a significant challenge.

    The troubles in our profession cannot be solved by added legislation. Our problems can only be solved by us changing our attitude, learning our craft better, and delivering true value to the consumer. If you sell an inferior product, you will go out of business. And it is the consumer who gets to decide what is inferior or superior. We are our own pompous, conceited, egotistical enemy.

    Let's get over ourselves and make our services necessary, valuable, and indispensible.
    -------------------------------------------
    William Hirsch AIA
    William J. Hirsch Jr. Architect
    Cary NC
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 30.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-20-2011 12:23 PM
    Of course I agree with Mr' Hirsch's analogy of a home vs. a commercial building. In fact the smaller the commercial building, the more it approaches the jewel box potential. I agree that in an ideal free market economy that quality will prevail with increased competition. In recent times, there may have been hundreds of thousands of builders building houses, but the designs they're working from are not so numerous. It's obvious that the vast majority of houses are not unique, but identical copies. Most builders build the same design many, many times. Over the years I've started to recognize identical houses, not just in my area, but across the country. I still see plan book designs floating around that obviously originated from the 70s or 80s by the way they're drawn. There may be a lot of builder competition out there, but there is very little design competition in housing. I think we have a very hard time grasping the scale of the housing problem and how we can provide a solution.

    I think the most difficult thing to get across when talking of housing, is getting Architects to forget about the very rare million dollar residence for a top 2%er (which is mostly what we do) and think about the real void in our repertoire, the average house for the average American. No Architect wants this work because it's not likely to earn a cover story in a magazine, like that strip mall surely will and they don't see it as profitable. When designing high end houses, you put together drawings more similar to a commercial building. Average people houses are built from plan book designs that are very limited in scope. Most jurisdictions require additional information. I've found that there is a level of detail that is more appropriate that is somewhere in between.

    No Architect will make a dime providing full service drawings for this type of work. We have developed this paranoid attitude that more information automatically equals more protection, but we've had some other discussions concerning conflicts in spec books and drawings that ultimately turn into disputes. More information can also lead to more lawsuits. Home builders are very different than commercial contractors. There is an expectation in residential that the builder is in charge and we tend to be shoved aside once construction starts. How many plan book authors get sued for design errors? The general owner's perception is that the builder owns the project once they start building. From a liability stand point we should exploit that, not contest it.

    Because average people prefer new homes that are already built, the spec house has filled this need. We will never get away from this model, so why not embrace it for what it is and try to improve it? I have 3 spec builders in the same neighborhood building very different houses and they're all using my designs. None are copies, each house is unique. What makes the builders stand out from each other is how they finish the houses. One builder is great with kitchens and interior design, while the other is better with exterior detailing. One likes Prairie/Modern, one likes Bungalows, while the other likes Tudors. By letting go of the finish design on these projects, I'm able to participate in a type of work that none of us see and I've convinced 3 spec builders to stop mass producing the same houses. 

    Good builders will make you look good, so pick your team mates well. For every high end million dollar house project where I do get a chance to design the finishes, I see 20 nice spec houses/ renovations that generally sell in the $500-750K range. These are nice projects that I would never get to do charging a full service fee and control freaking the builder who bases their competitiveness on their creative contribution to the design and finishing. I make much better money doing this than I do with commercial work. Doing the heavy lifting and providing the broad brush strokes is much better than refusing to participate at all. I'm amazed at some of the creative ideas my builders come up with and they prevent hundreds of projects from getting too repetitive. I'm a sole practitioner,  I turn 40 this year, and I can talk in terms of hundreds of projects. 


    -------------------------------------------
    Eric Rawlings AIA
    Owner
    Rawlings Design, Inc.
    Decatur GA
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 31.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-23-2011 08:26 PM
    If it needs a permit... it needs a stamp. 

    End of discussion.


    -------------------------------------------
    John Hrivnak AIA
    Principal
    Hrivnak Associates, Ltd.
    Saint Charles IL
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 32.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-24-2011 12:55 PM
    No stamp, no permit.
    John's right; it is that simple.

    But how do we make the change?
    How about applying pressure to the International Code Council?  Many of us are already ICC members.  The authors of the codes don't feel as much pressure from builders lobbies as do our government officials.  The codes exist to protect the public.  The section on Construction Documents R106 already dictates that "...construction documents shall be prepared by a registered design professional....".

    The next line however,reads "where required by the statutes of the jurisdiction in which the project is to be constructed."  When these codes were being drafted, one of the major concerns was making sure that they would be adopted, unifying a variety of competing code sources into one.  So language like this was included to ease that transition and ensure their universal acceptance.  We are past that now, and thankfully, the ICC codes are used far and wide. 
     
    Gone too, are the days of homesteading pioneers, and all buildings, including homes, have grown more complex.  I think it's easy to make a case to the ICC that using a registered design  professional protects the public's health, safety, and welfare.  I propose a simple edit: delete "where required by the statutes of", insert "licensed in".
    Imagine it: "The construction documents shall be prepared by a registered design professional, licensed in the jurisdiction in which the project is to be constructed."

    This simple change could alter the dynamic of the problem.  Our profession would not be the ones left grumbling and fear mongering.  Any township that did not wish to adhere would have to create an exception for themselves, instead of the presumed exception many exercise now.  This would mean lots of local challenges, with the anti-credential forces having to sell the idea of protecting the public from widespread use of design professionals and internationally recognized building codes.  These local challenges would be easier to defend against.  Local building inspectors support our involvement. Add a little advocacy help from our own AIA, and who knows?  We might even start to get past some of the attitudes we face now as: "Do I have to hire an architect?" could become, "Do you know a good architect?".

    Of course, there are some projects that don't require a registered design professional.  I support the standard that buildings intended for human habitation should be designed by an architect, even if those humans intend to inhabit some sort of residence.  The "building designer" designation should offer no protection from laws restricting the practice of "architecture".  Any 8 year old child can tell you that architects design buildings.  The code offers further clarification in section R105.2.  No permit is required for one-story storage sheds not exceeding 120 sf, so no documentation is necessary.

    But if it needs a permit, it needs a stamp. 

    Please contact the ICC yourself, and request this simple change in the code.   Seek the support of your local AIA leadership.  And contact your local building department directly and ask their support with local lawmakers. 
    And thank you.


    Paul Bloomfield AIA
    President
    FORM Architecture + Design
    Bryn Mawr, PA
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 33.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-25-2011 07:41 AM
    This change to make the ICC the "heavy" instead of the State Licensure Boards would not go over well in Pennsylvania in my opinion. Under the PA architects licensure law, it permits anyone to design a single family house without a license.
     

    An amendment (to PL 1227 No. 281) in 1998 under section 15 Permitted practices it reads "(4) The preparation of any drawings or other design documents [by an individual for a single-family residence of any size or cost which is to be used by such individual as his or her home.] for detached one family or two-family dwellings not more than three stories in height and their accessory structures."  See http://bit.ly/iYAzvU

     

    This was an amendment made back in 1998 when the AIA lobbied with the home builders associations over some other issue. The AIA wanted to make this change to require an architect's seal on everything, but they used this item to barter for something else (that I can't remember right now). I should look up the history of that again, but it would probably upset me like it did back then. Regardless, we had our chance and it was the AIA that lost it for us. If the ICC required this, my guess is the PA Uniform Construction Code board would likely amend it back to PA law again.  Maybe someone else from Pennsylvania can shed light on this better.


    -------------------------------------------
    Lee Calisti AIA
    Principal
    lee CALISTI architecture+design
    Greensburg PA
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 34.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-26-2011 08:47 AM
    One of the first lines in the Building Code is that the local code official has the privilege to override the code. Requiring licenses will have to be done at the jurisdiction level, maybe by the state like NY, NJ. The code can be overridden. My little jurisdiction just started requiring structural stamps on residential framing plans, but no Architect requirement. We are getting left behind. Pretty soon people will think engineers design houses.

    -------------------------------------------
    Eric Rawlings AIA
    Owner
    Rawlings Design, Inc.
    Decatur GA
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 35.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-27-2011 07:33 AM
    In Pennsylvania, many feel the code (IRC here in PA) was "shoved down their throat" and small municipalities were threatened by it (another topic of discussion). Homeowners and even other architects that I've spoken with are offended by it. My city's CEO does require a stamp and people think negatively about that decision. So I get calls from people who don't want what I offer, but have to somebody to seal some drawing so they can get what they want...a permit. Actually they don't even want a permit either. It's almost impossible to work for someone who doesn't want you, doesn't want to pay you and doesn't intend to really use your drawings, let alone your services.

    I don't like to be sold, but I do like to be educated when making a decision. Also I have found that forcing people doesn't work, but making them WANT to do something does. I don't have the answer, but I know it has to be a change in attitude like Paul mentioned earlier where "...do I have to hire an architect?" WILL become, "Do you know a good architect
    ?".
    -------------------------------------------
    Lee Calisti AIA
    Principal
    lee CALISTI architecture+design
    Greensburg PA
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 36.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-30-2011 09:33 AM
    Yes, I agree that Americans hate rules being imposed on them. When it comes to requiring our stamp, it is even more difficult from a practicality position after our profession just got cut in half. We can't snap our fingers and start requiring licenses everywhere. Some jurisdictions do have enough Architects to handle the current load, but many do not. We need to get more Architects to infiltrate the regular guy residential market first, so we do have a presence, so we can realistically do this. I think the main problem is that most of us aren't thinking of this as long term goal, but a half baked immediate solution to employ Architects right now. Who wouldn't want our profession to grow, become more important, and actually see the same representation in the ENTIRE building industry as all the trades.

    The person you speak of is the typical first timer who just happened to time their project wrong. This is the same reaction you'll get from anyone any time something changes. After the surprise is gone, these rules get accepted. My builders whined and cried about the structural stamp recently required in my area for a minute and got over it on the next project. It disrupted their immediate plans, but was no big deal when they knew to plan for it. 

    The problem is that we need to be more present and accessible to the regular guy before we can realistically require our services. In my area, most Architects in the phone book would historically turn down residential work, so these clients don't think we design houses. We just need to realize that a guy who would normally use a plan book or a napkin sketch, does not need a full service set of drawings, nor can they afford it. They just need a good idea and a permit. If you can determine an appropriate amount of involvement in this kind of work, you can make just as good of money as commercial. 

    Right now, people are renovating like crazy in most parts of the country. Those of you who are out of work ought to be chasing down these projects. High end new construction will stay sluggish, but regular people are bursting at the seams and have finally got the confidence to pull the trigger on their projects. Get out there and be present in your neighborhood. Put up your signs and make sure they know you're AIA. The more we set ourselves apart from the designers and figure out how to get our fees more competitive, the sooner we will take the work away from them and people will begin to recognize us when they think of houses. Remember, they don't draw near as much as you and that's why their fees are much cheaper. One of our guys once said, "$Less is more$". Our most likely involvement in this kind of work is in the broad brush strokes, so accept your role as setting the template and let the others fill in the blanks. Right now they don't even have the template.

    -------------------------------------------
    Eric Rawlings AIA
    Owner
    Rawlings Design, Inc.
    Decatur GA
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 37.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-30-2011 10:44 PM
    Not sure we will get much help from bldg officials --
    In Ohio, in 1979 a state law was passed that 4-family dwellings and above had to be sealed.
    The Architects' Board also passed a law making plan stamping illegal. 
    The chief building official in my resident county keeps a list for people who come to him to get a permit that needs a seal.
    He gives them a few county architects' names then the name of a non-registered person, along with the explanation that if you go to him you have to remember that this person will have to go to an architect or engineer and get his plans "stamped".
     

    -------------------------------------------
    D. Cook AIA
    Tipp City OH
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 38.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-25-2011 12:37 PM
    Unfortunately, resolution to this discussion lies with each jurisdiction. As much as we may want to require anyone that designs a home to be a licensed architect, this falls under the jurisdictional requirements of the where the work is being done. And few states require it.  Nevada is one of the few - they regulate home design (and interior design). Here in Utah, where the legislature is controlled by less regulation minded people beholden to giant home building corporations, that change is likely never to happen. The legislature even took control of which building codes to adopt in order to preserve the right of builders to build cheaply. What to make a difference? Write your local legislator or state senator.  

    -------------------------------------------
    Hans Hoffman AIA NCARB LEEDap
    Architect
    hoffman architects LLC
    Salt Lake City UT
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 39.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-25-2011 12:59 PM
    In Minnesota Architect is defined by exception.  Residences, duplexes, triplexes, temporary structures, office spaces over 5,000 s.f and farm buildings are exempt from architectural certification.  There has been some talk in recent years that large residences, say over 6,000 or 10,000 sq. ft. have become so complicated that a hazard to the safety of public is created, if just anybody can design them.  But it is a hard argument to win in this libertarian age of the rights of the almighty individual.

    Despite a rather wide practice monopoly in Minnesota, much work is done by non licensed people because Building Officials have exempted themselves from responsibility to see plans are properly certified.  We too are to blame.  Architects and the AIA are afraid to defend the profession (as we are obligated to do) by pointing a finger at people practicing architecture without a license.  It is hard to fill out the form and say I accuse.  That and the public better knows architecture as designing football games, guts of computers and political strategy than buildings.

    We have not done well in defending the profession.  

    -------------------------------------------
    Peter Carlsen AIA
    Carlsen & Frank Architects
    Saint Paul MN
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 40.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-20-2011 12:24 PM


    -------------------------------------------
    Philip Lembo AIA
    Architect/Owner
    Philip Lembo Architect
    Clearwater FL
    -------------------------------------------
    I agree with you William.  I have spent 3 months from design to completion of construction documents on a custom house and it involves a great deal of detail.   I have also done a hi-rise apartment building of 27 story's which also involved a great deal of detailas completed in the same amount of time.   I love to do custom houses because of their uniqueness but the fee could not compare to the fee for the hi-rise apartment building even considering the cost of engineering and drafting costs.

    The true custom house is more of a chalange than the hi-rise, if it is done properly.  The problem is that there are many who say they have done a custom house even though it only involved a unique plan and a basic set of drawings, off the shelf components and excluding the myriad of detail and product selections the a custom home design should include.  There are too many who leave it to the contractor to handle those details.   Unfortunately their are not a lot of clients who are willing to pay the fee required to do the proper job and are seteling for Semi-Custom homes, as I described,  because its cheaper.   The only way around the fee problem is to become a design-builder and actually become involved in the construction end of the project and, as one Architect I know does, put on your hard hat and start pounding (shooting?) nails.




    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 41.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-19-2011 12:51 PM

    Well, OK, I didn't expect this thread to go on this long, and apparently Mr. Rawlings is even more frustrated than I am, which I completely understand. 

    To clarify, the things that incensed me the most about the original article were the assertions that ANYONE could design small buildings with no education, no experience, and certanly no oversight of any kind.  I felt that that kind of statement did nothing but degrade us as architects: honestly, if anyone can do it, why bother with an architect?  THAT was what horrified me the most.  Apparently, I was heard.

    I received a response from About.com, an email from the assistant general counsul of the AIA, and most recently About.com published another article entitled "How Architecture Became a Profession" which relies heavily on the AIA:
    http://architecture.about.com/od/becomeanarchitect/a/architect-beginnings.htm

    Regardless of how you feel about licensure, whether you know a "designer" who does good work or not, the main thing that we should remember is that there is no substitute for education and experience.  The more we reinforce that with the general public the better off we will all be. 

    As for Mr. Rawling's note below, I am glad that the general public doesn't read these forums, because he's right: there's an awful lot of whining going on.  But that's OK, let's whine about our problems HERE (we've got to do it somewhere), but in the view of the public, let's be confident in ourselves, our abilities, our education, and our experience.  I think that's when the message that architects are your go-to professionals will start to gain momentum. 

    To poorly quote Helen Reddy (yeah, sorry about this): I'm an architect--hear me roar!

    Keep the faith comrades...


    -------------------------------------------
    Mary Holley AIA
    President
    ma2 architects
    Basalt CO
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 42.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-19-2011 03:56 PM

    Mary,

    I wanted to follow up with you regarding your comment about the discussion forums as private. In fact, the content on AIA KnowledgeNet is public and searchable. This visiblity is similar to the AIA Knowledge Communities membership which is also open to the public.

    The intent of AIA KnowledgeNet is to create a space for professional dialogue between architects and allied professionals. The content is publicly viewable 1) to ease use for members by not requiring login to view content and 2) to provide an opportunity for public insight into the profession.

    It is a good rule of thumb to assume any content on the web is public and to post accordingly. Please feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns.

    -------------------------------------------
    Kathleen Simpson
    Manager, Knowledge Communities
    The American Institute of Architects
    Washington DC
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 43.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-20-2011 05:33 PM

    In response to Casius questioning a single architectutral license for all buildings, look at other professions.  One Bar admission for all types of law.  The most diverse is a PE license.  One can design a plumbing system, a highway bridge or even a nuclear power plant, all with the same license.  Some Architect's specialize in a building type.  Some are generalists.  The Owner decides which type fits their needs.  A professional will need to educate themselves to provide quality service in both cases, the latter more intensely. I find that the continuous learning process required of an Architect is one of the appealing qualities of the profession.
    -------------------------------------------
    Dave Ringer AIA
    Lambertville NJ
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 44.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-18-2011 02:02 PM

    So the issue seems to be whether there should be sort of a "junior architect" category for residential work. My own take on this is that residential work can be MORE complex than other types of work which require an architect.

    I believe the medical model is analogous. Although an MD and passing some medical boards are sort of a base standard for entrée into the entire field, just as I would not go a family practitioner for heart surgery nor a proctologist for a brain tumor, I don't think a newly minted architect is any more qualified at doing residential than doing 100-story office towers, and both require some specialized experience to be competent in each area.

    Where architects often get criticized in residential work (especially remodelings and additions), is that there is a common (mis)perception that it's "easier" than other types of architecture, and is therefore suitable as a way to start off your practice, fill in between the "real jobs", or is just at the bottom of the architectural feeding chain. This may be fueled by the lack of need for licensure, which implies that residential design is "easy."

    What happens, though, is that architects (often rightly) get criticized for not understanding fundamental requirements of residential work, like furniture placement, window treatment requirements, lighting, good kitchen design, finish selections, etc. Architects often take the position that this will be worked out by the client and the contractor, or other specialists, who are not perceived as highly relevant to the spatial design, anyway - what they were taught in school. Thus, architects misperceive residential architecture as being mostly about structure and space, and then others rush in with their "expertise" to fill in the blanks, usually criticizing the fundamental shortsightedness of the architects along the way. (And BTW, often getting paid -- sometimes very well -- to provide what the architects just assumed the client was not willing to pay for.)

    I have discussed this with my colleagues at AIA meetings. Truly, most are not interested in the interior design details which the clients care deeply about, not because they don't have an opinion, but because they really don't want to deal with coordinating that level of detail; they are, frankly, psychically worn out with just the shell and basic planning issues. Well, guess what? Residential architecture IS that level of detail, and if folks can't stand the heat, they should get out of the kitchen. But they shouldn't be surprised when others rush in to take their place.

    I have seen a fundamental shift in the complexity of residential architecture over the decades, too. Whereas years ago the code book was a single small manual, and it didn't take too much to put a permittable plan set together, now it is a multi-volume set of codes, with local "greenpoint" requirements, construction pollution/dewatering requirements, FEMA requirements, separate planning reviews with neighborhood input, multi-department plan reviews, and on and on.  I guess there are still jurisdictions in this country where you can get a house built with a page or two of drawings, but I don't live in one of them. I find residential architecture in today's environment, even with all of the training and experience I have (over 30 years now), to be hugely challenging and getting more so. So I have to come out on the side that maybe there should be an INCREASED requirement for residential architects with respect to licensure. Certainly not less.


    -------------------------------------------
    Richard Morrison AIA
    Richard Morrison, AIA, ASID
    Redwood City CA
    -------------------------------------------



    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 45.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-18-2011 07:13 PM
    I agree that residential design involves a level of complexity and nuance that is distinct from the complexities involved in many other project types.  Those complexities are technical as well as social/psychological, and I know architects who have abandoned single family practice for the relative simplicity and predictability of multifamily or commercial practice.  By raising education and licensure issues, I'm simply trying to get to a level of specificity that would allow us to draft a revision to a state architectural practice act and to effectively advocate for a legislature to consider such a revision. 

    Architects' existing state-regulated monopoly is narrowly tailored to protect public health and safety concerns.  "Complexity" by itself isn't a justification for expanding state regulation here.  Neither is the fact that licensed architects might be consistently "better" than even the best residential designers.  I want to expand architects' state-sponsored monopoly, but I simply don't see the public health and safety crisis that such an expansion would address.  Can anyone provide a link to a recent news article that could be used as "Exhibit A" in our case for why a particular state legislature should be the first to require a licensed architect for all single family projects?

    The current patchwork of exemptions for single family projects isn't an accident or an oversight, but a result of policies that were specifically considered and affirmatively implemented by virtually every state in the country.  Again, I'm not saying that we shouldn't change the status quo here.  I'm saying that changing the status quo requires convincing people other than ourselves.  And that convincing typically takes facts rather than anecdotes or assertions.

    casius.

    -------------------------------------------
    Casius Pealer Assoc. AIA
    Principal
    Oyster Tree Consulting
    New Orleans LA
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 46.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-18-2011 10:20 AM
    It would appear that with 18 required Lu's there is hardly room for a required specialized residential credit; yet there is an area of potential crossover that seems to be poorly covered at this point by CEU's. I'm talking about accessibility - ADA, Universal Design and the aging in place arena. This "field" of coursework has been well addressed by the HBA; but, I have seen few courses directed at architects for CEU's. Although accessibility is a piece of the design process for all types of projects, it is particularly important for the design of housing for our aging population. Universal Design education would also provide a segment of HSW credits that, at times, would be more relevant for the residential practitioner.

    -------------------------------------------
    Jeffrey Abrams AIA
    Architect/ Principal
    Jeffrey K. Abrams Architect P.C.
    Boulder CO
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 47.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-17-2011 10:01 AM
    I agree. While it is ultimately still a question of demonstrating competency, you've really got to turn the conversation around. It is not about protecting an unlicensed person's right to practice, licensure is about protecting the consumer by verifying a practitioner's competency.

    Even here in my state where a license is required for residential projects, the State Board is reluctant to prosecute those without a license. Until recently, they even said they they had no authority to prosecute unlicensed practitioners, since that was the purview of the Attorney General's office. They could only regulate those with licenses who practiced outside the standard of care. That was not the law, it was just their excuse for not wanting to spend any money.

    We made the argument (during the public comment portion of their monthly meetings) that they really were not protecting the consumer unless they went after all persons practicing architecture, licensed or not. Obviously, they did not see the opportunity to close the state's budget gap by enforcing regulations already on the books.

    And when I mentioned that, it seemed like a light went off in the Deputy Attorney General's head. But still they insist that they cannot spend a few hours each week trolling the internet for people offering architectural services illegally (that's about all the fines it would take to cover a staffer's salary), and that they relied on the public (read, "AIA NJ") to submit complaints, as they are a regulatory agency, not an activist organization.

    So if others make the argument that that really don't want a client who "has to" hire an architect, I would gladly take that referral so I can demonstrate to the uninitiated clients exactly where the value lies in hiring an architect. And it's not just having someone to sue if things go south. (That's true advocacy, by the way.)


    -------------------------------------------
    David Del Vecchio AIA
    Architect
    David Del Vecchio, Architect, LLC
    Cranford NJ
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 48.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-18-2011 10:05 AM
    Usually, state board enforcement starts with complaints, either from a home owner who feels "ripped off" due to poor service or negligent performance by a designer, or from an architect who has sufficient reason to believe an unlicensed designer is acting unethically or illegally. Each month I receive newsletters from state boards in California and Arizona, they include enforcement actions. The vast majority are actions--fines typically--against people who advertise themselves as "architects" or have the word "architect" following their name on a set of their plans, or even create a fake stamp to make it look like they are a licensed architect. The enforcement comes because even though these people are not architects, they are breaking the law--the Architects Practice Act, which includes laws about practicing without a license. I would venture to say that New Jersey also has a similar law, most states do. What you really need are people to complain. If you feel someone is violating the law, a complaint can be filed with the Attorney General directly against them. Be sure it is a violation and not just someone doing bad design. Unfortunately, there are no laws against bad taste or bad design.

    -------------------------------------------
    David Clarke AIA, Senior Architect
    Williams Design Group, Inc.
    President-Elect AIA New Mexico Southern Chapter
    Las Cruces NM

    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 49.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-19-2011 10:00 AM
    Since most of my work is fixing spec houses I would argue that home design needs architects. It is one of the few building types that most types of human activity occurs and more people are working out of their homes also. I practice in California where everyone thinks they are a designer. (Our interior design friends have to compete with some one who thinks they know interior design after completing a floral arranging course).

    Refreshingly, I had to become licensed in Hawaii because only an architect can sign off the architectural portion of the drawings, no one else. Its all in the licensing requirements and the State AIA who advocates such. (BTW there are a few unscrupulous Hawaiian architects who make a living off signing off drawings and go back out to surf, which the authorities are trying to crack down on.)

    Architects are the only ones educated to design inspiring spaces. Environments that delight the soul. And that is what it is all about, not Simpson connectors, recycled material counter tops or curb appeal.

    -------------------------------------------
    Sally Anne Smith AIA
    Smith Architectural Studio
    Carmel Highlands CA
    -------------------------------------------






    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 50.  RE:Yes, you too can become a "Professional Home Designer!"

    Posted 05-13-2011 11:14 AM
    Susan Haviland - I couldn't agree more. You said it very well.

    Here in Michigan, there is no requirement for an architect's seal on most residential construction drawings. I've always had the opinion that that's okay with me. I don't want to be hired by someone who is only looking for my seal and doesn't want my design skills or construction knowledge. The few times I have received calls from people looking for me to seal drawings, I've noticed that they are also looking for cheap, fast "service." They don't need or want my expertise. Why would I want them as clients?

    -------------------------------------------
    Dawn Zuber AIA
    Owner
    Studio Z Architecture
    Canton MI
    -------------------------------------------




    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13