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Impotent Organization in time of Crisis

  • 1.  Impotent Organization in time of Crisis

    Posted 03-22-2011 08:23 AM

    My larger point is this:
    I am interested in all aspects of residential design, yes.
    But I am NOT interested in reading about snow details or how to win and influence the public perception of us at all right now.
    I want to know what can be done to save our collective hides.
    Do you know what type of information should be talked about here right now?
    If blogging is the thing to do, listen to the real issues that affect us critically here for example:
    Housing Meltdown Continues http://seekingalpha.com/article/259311-housing-s-meltdown-continues
    Read the followup responses on that thread and others.
    Rather than listen to the NAR or NAHB, go here: Homes Under Construction: Still Falling
    We have an impotent organization with no leadership in a time of crisis.

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    John Henry
    John Henry Design International, Inc.
    Orlando Florida
    www.dreamhomedesignusa.com
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    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 2.  RE:Impotent Organization in time of Crisis

    Posted 03-23-2011 05:45 PM
    Help me beat the drum - loudly - AIA; are you listening?

    Protecting our collective hides is quite simple and I've mentioned it repeatedly in similar forums; IF IT NEEDS A PERMIT, IT NEEDS A STAMP!

    Permits are to protect health, safety and welfare - same reason we're licensed. Either eliminate permits (won't happen - too much money in it for communities) OR require that IF IT NEEDS A PERMIT, IT NEEDS A STAMP! 

    That would mean dramatically increased demand for architect's services. (for those of you who skipped out on Econ 101, that translates to dramatically increased numbers of projects and with a limited supply of registered architects, demand exceeding supply which in turn means that fees go up) 

    If the AIA were to do anything for us, ever... especially now... it would be to lobby for IF IT NEEDS A PERMIT, IT NEEDS A STAMP! until every permitting authority in the US would require that.  

    Once successful, our profession is cured. Small firms are inundated with business and charge fair market fees (the market will push them up - supply & demand). Entrepreneurial architects could open for business. Large firms would have to compete for limited supply of talent - pay increases 'cause fees increase. More become interested in staying in the profession or getting into it in the first place. 

    The public benefits from architect-designed/inspired built environment. Communities benefit from competency in planning (and the insurance benefits of architects). Drafters don't lose either - they become employees of architects who direct and check their work. 

    Profession fixed. Beat the drum. While you're at it, remember your "ABC's"; Architect Before Contractor. 

    Two simple things the AIA could/should/must do. NOW. 


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    John Hrivnak AIA
    Principal
    Hrivnak Associates, Ltd.
    Saint Charles IL
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    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 3.  RE:Impotent Organization in time of Crisis

    Posted 03-24-2011 09:31 AM
    I can guarantee you 100% that here in Georgia there is NO WAY such a law would ever be passed.  As an architect, I like your argument.  But the cold, hard reality is that it would never happen.  I'd rather help focus AIA on things that can actually get done.  Of course, if you think you can make that happen in Illinois, go for it!

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    Catherine Barfield AIA
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    Atlanta GA
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    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 4.  RE:Impotent Organization in time of Crisis

    Posted 03-25-2011 07:37 AM
    With all due respect, the idea of requiring Architect's stamps on residences is not such an impossible thing to accomplish, though it may be a long process. Snapping our fingers and making the whole state of GA jump isn't realistic, but I think a jurisdiction by jurisdiction approach would be realistic. City of Atlanta and City of Decatur both require drawings that a professional should be preparing. City of Atlanta allows an Architect to stamp a residence and by-pass review, provided we accept all of the city's liability. Decatur is very forward thinking and may consider such a move. In fact I'll be sitting in on a meeting soon discussing changes in Decatur's permitting process and I'll be sure to bring this up. They've pondered making the whole city an historic district because of the suburban, senseless builder box construction that never considers renovating an old house. They're small enough and urban enough to have the Architects to support such a thing and I doubt slowing down the cookie cutters is going to hurt them much. When times are slow, that's when changes are easiest to make. We're running out of time.

    I think most people have the same attitude about tackling the big things. There's no will, so let's just roll over and take it. The current conditions are tolerable enough not to stand up and do the right thing. It's the American way to just accept being screwed by a moronic process that no one can make sense of.

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    Eric Rawlings AIA
    Owner
    Rawlings Design, Inc.
    Decatur GA
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    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 5.  RE:Impotent Organization in time of Crisis

    Posted 03-24-2011 10:09 AM
    The idea that if it needs a permit, it needs a stamp is interesting but that takes legislation. In my state, that would be state legislation, and that 'aint' gonna happen.  It becomes another unfunded government mandate.  While there is certainly huge value in good design, the public doesn't understand that and won't pay for it, especially when there are plan services charging less than a dollal/SF for 'house plans'. 

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    Clarence Babineaux AIA
    Partner
    SGB Architects, LLC
    Bossier City LA
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    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 6.  RE:Impotent Organization in time of Crisis

    Posted 03-24-2011 01:03 PM


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    Fred Flynn AIA
    Architect
    Fred Flynn Architect
    Santa Rosa CA
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    Is it an impotent Organization or is it us

    Ok, that's a catchy phrase about permits I'll give you that but will that solve the problem.  If every permit did require a stamp would we end up with a better designed environment.  Probably not.  Why.  Well maybe one good reason might be that we have been complacent to a fault in not convincing people of the added value of good design over mediocrity.  

    Over the years I have found that buildings usually come out only as good as you and the client allow it to be and there's the rub. If you have a client who's only desire is size and initial cost and won't listen to better options then, unless you are some sort of magician it will be an ordinary structure.  Not all clients will appreciate nor accept a Frank Lloyd Wright approach to design. 

    So is it our Organizations fault that we have such mediocre buildings surrounding us or do we live in a society which places little or no value to good design.  Will stamps on permits ensure better designs.  I don't look to the AIA to solve all my problems.  I try to enlighten and educate my clients as to the many options available and the life cycle costs savings to be expected from those choices.  In Europe architects often ask clients "how many generations do you wish their building to last".  The longer the time the more durable the material choices.  The same can be true of energy efficiency components. 

    It's not about a stamp on a permit,  it's about education and there is something I do believe our Organization can be of help to us.  This is by no means a simple task with the economy working against us but I do believe it is worth a try.  I remember taking Humanities Classes in school where I learned an appreciation for history, philosophy, literature which led me to read more books about their influences on Society.  The Arts and Humanities have been lost to most students today due to budget cuts and so to has an appreciation for what it mean to us as a society.   No wonder most peoples primary concern is simply to own a space that will shelter them from the outside world (except for the obligatory TV). And then there's our City Building Departments with their Code obsessions which will approve almost anything that imitates a box but will scrutinize any "outside the box" designs to the point of absurdity,  and Design Review Boards are impotent at best because good design always takes a back seat to rules and regulations.

    We have bigger problems than our stamps on permits when our stamps are all over society showing that most architects and Building Departments are part of the problem,  not the solution.  I would rather like to see the AIA start a dialogue on the value of design and its potential return for Society.




    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 7.  RE:Impotent Organization in time of Crisis

    Posted 03-24-2011 09:44 PM
    Dear Fred, it seems your argument is against requiring permits as a way to punish bad design.

    I don't think you meant to imply that architects should be punished for all the "bad" design that supposedly goes on out there even though- due to lack of an architect's stamp being required- the so-called "inferior" design may not have been the work of an architect in the first place? 

    I think the issues of design and architects fees should be kept separate because art (i.e. design) is subjective to a certain degree, whereas providing architectural services is measurable and deserves to be compensated fairly.

    Borrowing from the medical field, for example, some dental work may turn out shoddy, but we still pay for it; and even pay more to have it fixed.  Some doctors may not accurately diagnose the patient at first; it's trial and error and an art, not just a science.  Yet, the doctor is reimbursed by the insurance company.  And attorneys get paid just for answering the telephone and giving "ballpark" advice at rates of $250.00 per hour, often even more.  So, why should architects, also considered professional experts, be any different?

    I agree with you that we need to more clearly define what is good design.  Is there an AIA document for that?

    While we're on the subject: Why do we need Realtors?

    Why do Realtors deserve to get 6%- for what?  For finding the not-so-inferior home that the home buyer would not have been able to find had they been looking on their own?

    Why do we need architects? Maybe we should play "Survivor Architects" at the next AIA Convention and vote off the island all "bad" architects. :D  (I bet Richard would win, and he's not even an architect!)

    Of those good architects remaining, why pay them?

    In fact, it seems that clients have been taught- by some good architects- that the adage "why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free" also applies to the services of architecture.

    It's a multi-dimensional problem.  Residential architects have lost business due to myriad reasons- nothing much to do with the lack of permits being required.   Regarding commercial projects, I recently heard that at least two high-profile firms who produce brilliiant designs have donated their services (for one year)-- and on buildings that require a stamp.  To me, the latter is the biggest problem our profession faces.  This is the perception that needs to change, i.e. that an architect/firm is so "lucky" to have the commission, therefore he/she should do it "for less, if not for free." 

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    Tara Imani AIA
    Principal
    Tara Imani Designs, LLC
    Houston TX
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    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 8.  RE:Impotent Organization in time of Crisis

    Posted 03-25-2011 12:07 PM


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    Philip Burdick AIA
    Philip D. Burdick, Architect
    Springfield MA
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    Here's a drum to beat.  An Architect's stamp is not required for single (and 2) family residential buildings in Massachusetts but in communities that have adopted the new "stretch" energy code a certification is needed from a "qualified" HERS rater to verify energy code compliance.  A Certificate of Occupancy can not be issued without it regardless of whether or not the architect certifies that the "prescriptive" design complies with the Code.  The software to provide this assessment is proprietary and the equipment and training expensive. So the mechanical engineering trade has managed to get their foot in the door ahead of the architects.  The architect stamp means nothing. 





    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 9.  RE:Impotent Organization in time of Crisis

    Posted 03-26-2011 07:19 AM
    I think a multi-pronged approach is necessary for us to regain a foothold in Residential. Clearly this will double our numbers and our voice in the building industry. Requiring stamps for residential work is not an impossible concept. The home building industry is obviously "lost" without leadership. NY state already requires Architect or Engineer's stamps on houses, so why not the rest of the country? All of these residential designers would have to get licensed to continue practicing, which greatly increases our numbers. Do you think the AIA could imagine doubling membership (fees)? Wouldn't this be a lucrative concept to pursue $$$? 

    Value is more of a problem than requiring stamps. Appraisal reform is far more important if we ever want to design houses that are valued more per sf than a cookie cutter. As it stands now, there are two categories for home value: New construction and Renovations. Renovations are automatically valued less than New. This makes sense in most situations, except when an Historic structure is being restored. Although in most cases a well preserved Historic structure is considered more desirable, yet trying to get the value to construction cost numbers to work is near impossible because renovations are valued less. Many older homes not protected by historic districts get torn down indiscriminately by mindless cookie cutter builders. Historic districts are often created just to combat this problem, which many of us agree is an aggravating way of getting people to do the right thing.

    I have an idea! Why don't we, at very least, petition the banks and appraisers to give more value to unique houses designed by a local, licensed Architect that can verify the fact that the design has only been used once. We could have Renovations $, New mass produced housing $$, and unique Architectural houses $$$. I know for a fact that NO ONE wants to live in the same house as their neighbor. My business exists only because people want unique homes. I have the MLS listings to prove my unique spec houses have outsold all of the cookie cutters in my area. Can anyone else provide similar proof that unique homes are more desirable than cookie cutters? Every unique commodity in this country is valued higher than the equivalent mass produced knock off. This concept shouldn't be that hard to grasp and quite frankly, I have no idea how this country has allowed the banks and appraisers to continue valuing property the same way after their gross misunderstanding of what this commodity is worth. Their failure to recognize economic conditions as a whole while allowing value to skyrocket was quite intentional if you ask me. The more "equity" someone thought they had, the more likely they would "withdraw" it in the form of taking out a larger loan on the house than the bank knew it was really worth. Now they still want their 2005-2006 money for these fraudulent, inflated loans.

    Watch "Inside Job" and you will be furious that our profession was devastated by a small handful of greedy b@st@rds! We rely on these people for our profession to exist and there are ZERO checks and balances for them to do the right thing, EVER! They created their own rules, they eliminated their risk while putting us, our profession at risk, they played games with people's lives with no consequence, and worst of all NO ONE WENT TO JAIL???!!!??@$#$%#@!!! There has never been a better time to say, "I told you your system was flawed, now we're going to fix it" (PC version of what I really want to say to them). The more time that passes, the less likely we'll be able to change this moronic system. We should march on Wall Street! Make a news story out of it. The people would be on our side if we could bring these issues to the TV screen. Imagine the Architects, engineers, builders, etc. revolting against the people who destroyed us all! If we make a big enough stink, DC will have to listen, the banks will have to listen. Now this is something the AIA could actually help organize and implement, but I'm sure our fees are better spent on dinners I'll never go to and parties I'll never be invited to. I would love to know my dues paid for thousands of laid off Architects to get free rides to NY for a protest that might actually do something BIG for us.

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    Eric Rawlings AIA
    Owner
    Rawlings Design, Inc.
    Decatur GA
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    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 10.  RE:Impotent Organization in time of Crisis

    Posted 03-28-2011 11:48 AM
    Mr. Rawlings...  I couldn't agree with you more about the issues with our profession due to the total lack of respect our profession has received over the past decades of Wall Street and FIRE (Financial, Insuarance and Real Estate sector) Industry control; "... A "free market" was an active political creation and required regulatory vigilance. Since World War I, the term free markets has gradually come to mean markets free of public regulation and free of empowered bureaucrats. In the redefinition of free market self-regulatory organizations rather than oversight and regulation by government implement any structuring or procedures necessary to maintain fair and orderly markets...." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIRE_economy.  Architecture is not appreciated in the FIRE sector and architects have no voice in the aisles of Congress.  We do indeed need the AIA to lobby our leaders and send us AIA memebers to Washington D.C. to protest and be heard.

    I suggest that every architect watch the documentary "Inside Job"  http://www.sonyclassics.com/insidejob/ as well, once you see how the shadow government of the Fed and large Banks control and manipulate our economy, you will be angered at the greed and lack of empathy toward, not only architects but the American people.  These individuals care only about their next bonus and disgustingly high salaries.  The stock market is their gambling casino and we are the ones left holding the bag, bailing them out and being stuck with a failing economy, no work and not much future.  We can change it but it will take all of us uniting and informing the public.

    I also suggest you go online and watch the documentaries and information outlined in the Zeigeist film series. www.zeitgeistmovie.com  These will open your eyes to what is going on with our country and the world economy.  It puts into question if the Monetary-Market driven system is sustainable for our planet, let alone our profession and our country's future.

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    SM+a
    Albuquerque NM
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    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 11.  RE:Impotent Organization in time of Crisis

    Posted 03-29-2011 07:07 AM
    One of the worst problems is that so many of us are afraid of this Socialist Boogie Man fantasy, yet we're ignoring this very real corporate take over of America. In order for a big, bigger, biggest to become a dominator of an industry, thousands, if not millions of small businesses have to be crushed, which in turn crushes competition. It's not like these guys are making the industry bigger by becoming bigger, something has to give. The Walmart model has provided cheap prices at the expense of quality, at the expense of millions of American Dreams being crushed, at the expense of domestic jobs, at the expense of small town America losing all local economy. In a small town there used to be family farms where an individual could work hard and make their own destiny. McDonald's killed the family farm by inventing the factory farm. Then Walmart came in a took out all the Ma & Pa shops, again stripping these people of opportunity and self reliance. Then the outsourcing of factories killed off the last money generator for small town America. Now they either work at the McD's, Exxon, or BP on the interstate exit or they work at Walmart. Corporate slavery!

    Some people call it socialist to think there should be some limits to how much someone can take or earn. If we are to have unlimited opportunity, then what's the end game? One guy can have everything? What else does unlimited mean? In order for our culture and economy to flourish, we must have competition, we must have variety. Competition lowers prices and raises quality. With the T-Mobile acquisition, that would make AT&T and Verizon 3/4 of the cell phone market?!?@?$?$% Two companies own 3/4? This is a corporate dictatorship. What competitor is going to force 3/4 of the market share to improve or lower prices? When companies get that big they limit the availability of products, limit innovation, limit opportunity, limit wages, and charge whatever they want. With no competition, how do you know what price is too high? What is cheap? You only get two options now. Everyone getting paid the same is unAmerican, but becoming slaves to Corp Am isn't?

    We have been sold a BS concept that bigger is better and it's killing the country so a few can have everything. Homogenizing the real estate market has had a similar stagnating effect on our economy. By establishing value by averaging everyone's effort in an area, it benefits the Walmart volume builders. It encourages them to build as many of the cheapest, bloated boxes as possible without any care for innovation or quality. These giant builder corporations don't want to innovate or design. They are only interested in manufacturing housing. Every time a schmuck like me designs a more expensive house, it will only appraise at the average of what everyone is doing. If my house does sell for more, the cheap guy gets to use my sale as a comp to raise his price. Now I have to raise my price, but the bank limits me, not him because his model is to build the cheapest. El Cheapo gets to go to the bank and get a loan based on the new average I just created, while I get penalized for my effort. This simple concept is at the core of all of our problems and we are letting an opportunity to fix it, just slip through our fingers.
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    Eric Rawlings AIA
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    Rawlings Design, Inc.
    Decatur GA
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    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 12.  RE:Impotent Organization in time of Crisis

    Posted 03-30-2011 12:22 PM
    Eric,
    I agree with your assessment.

    I also wanted to mention that for a lot of the giant homebuilders, the houses that are sold as 'product' are just an excuse to sell the lots they sit on. The land development is where the real money is made and the houses are a necessary part of the equation.

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    Paul Adams AIA LEED AP
    Principal
    Earth And Sky Architecture
    Denver CO
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    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 13.  RE:Impotent Organization in time of Crisis

    Posted 03-29-2011 09:13 AM
    The AIA does lobby Capitol Hill, It's called AIA Grassroots and it takes place every February.
    This years "Blueprint for America" had 4 points or agenda on it and AIA members from all over the country knocked on the doors of their Congressmen & Senators to present these points.

    1. We need the banks to start loaning money.
    2. Keep and increase the Energy Efficient Tax Credit.
    3. Repel the 1099 filing for all consultants over $600.
    4. Transportation - High speed rail. (yea, I agree that this is a pie-in-the-sky idea).

    The AIA is mostly run by Architects and when did any of us think that in the middle of our careers that we would need to become lobbyist.

    This forum is a good starting point to get active, but I think we all need to go to the next step with the ideas that will lead our profession in the future. Just like the "Green Initiative", every little bit counts in the end.

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    Christopher Ferger AIA
    Chris Ferger Architects
    Salisbury MD
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    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 14.  RE:Impotent Organization in time of Crisis

    Posted 03-30-2011 08:14 AM
    Mr. Ferger,
    You are right and I do appreciate the attempts to influence DC with our squeaky little voices. We all have expectations of the AIA based on our professional fees and perceived benefits. Many of us feel like we're paying quite a bit, yet we're not seeing or feeling much in return. The agenda items you list are important, especially lending money. Appraisal Reform, in my opinion, is another pie in the sky issue (more so than transportation), but the most important one. Everything we do revolves around the concept that our buildings cost more per sf than the hacks deliberately trying to sell the biggest, cheapest box possible. Appraisals average us out and give the people doing the worst job all the advantages. I had a former employer propose some of these ideas at an AIA "agenda" meeting in 2009 and of course people had "agenda" they've been working on for some time and weren't interested in hearing a new idea that year. It's part of the process, but the very reason I'm not interested in that route again. It takes way too long, it's way too political, and in the end it seems like not much gets accomplished anyway. The bang for the buck factor is lousy to say the least.

    Obviously a blog isn't going to do much other than excite like minded people during their morning coffee. Perhaps enough talking will get the attention of someone who can make a difference? As far as Appraisal Reform goes, I'm not even sure the AIA has enough influence or direct engagement with the banks to make a difference or even be heard. The builders and owners are borrowing the money, not us. Not to sound pessimistic, but I don't think there is a will to go after an issue of this size, yet the timing couldn't be better. I'm not sure I have the time or patience to run for election to some AIA office only to experience what my former employer did. I suppose I'm voicing my ideas here because I actually feel like someone is listening today, not at next year's agenda meeting. We can't wait to dredge through the egos and process to finally do a half ass job. We need action now, so how can we expedite getting ideas to the streets? Can we wait until Feb 2011 to finally present an idea of this size to the guys in DC who can't even agree that the sky is blue or the grass is green? How many years would it take to get Appraisal Reform on the list of 4 items going to DC in Feb? I suppose it's too easy to vent on a blog where my voice is heard by more than a room of people already armed with their own agenda.

    How do you change a bank's mind? When the banks are forced by the gov, the rules never stick, as politicians are always found in bed with bankers. I think we'd have a better chance of it sticking if we convince the banks directly. They have to feel there is something in it for them $$$ and there is! We know what it's like in a market place based on Honda value only, imagine when BMW, Porche, and Ferrari can be welcomed to market.

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    Eric Rawlings AIA
    Owner
    Rawlings Design, Inc.
    Decatur GA
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    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 15.  RE:Impotent Organization in time of Crisis

    Posted 03-31-2011 09:31 AM

    Eric,

    I feel compelled to come back and point out a few things in your line of thinking that are going to be huge impediments in trying to get the reform you're talking about (and I'm all for reforming the appraisal process). 

    First, it's not a question of allowing a 'BMW' to come into play in the home market. As I've pointed out before, cars and homes are not financed nor will they ever be appraised the same way. The market does not prohibit an owner from purchasing a BMW home at all - it simply says that you'll either pay more down or you'll have to have a higher level of income to afford it. The fact that people are willing to pay more for your homes is great. I can't say why potential buyers don't qualify - if the valuation on your home is $300/sf and everything else around it is $200/sf, it's going to cause any lender to assess that loan carefully as their risk will be higher if the loan defaults later. The fact that they are willing to pay more doesn't inherently mean they can afford to pay more (again, nothing I know).

    At the end of the day, though, the crux of your push - to have the 'value add' be solely associated with an architect's stamp won't hold up to any real scrutiny. Because it would be far too easy for the home builders to find some architect somewhere to put their stamp on their sets (for a price) and, viola, turn them into 'architect designed' homes. And there's no way to defend against that - it would be solely up to an architect to make that choice and sadly there will be far too many eager and willing participants in said scheme. Which will take us back to an even playing field. 

    I'm going to argue again that the way to convince the lenders that there's real value in our home designs is to address the 'hard' criteria that can be evaluated in some way - more energy efficient, durable, and easy to maintain homes that will last longer create an actual, objective value. It won't change the dynamic of trying to corner the market in terms of having to have a stamp or not - to me that's a lost cause already - but it would encourage the banks to make an appropriate loan that actually has more value. 

    Let's work together to define objective criteria, in the homes, that the current appraisal system ignores - that's an achiveable agenda to push forward.
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    Houser Walker Architecture
    Atlanta GA
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    AIA26 San Diego June 10-13


  • 16.  RE:Impotent Organization in time of Crisis

    Posted 04-01-2011 09:20 AM
    During the building boom, appraisers were just giving value away to anyone who wanted to bury themselves in more debt than they could ever handle. Because of this lapse in judgement, appraisals are very tight and strict now. What you're talking about is how they were acting during the boom. Today, you have to build in the average period, exclamation point, question mark. There is ZERO flexibility. This is being dictated by the FDIC. Local banks, appraisers have no say in the matter. This is a nationalized issue now. 

    The only reason there is a mental block regarding market homogenization of building value, is because we all have a hard time separating the value of a lot from the value of a structure. We are forced to compare structures that just happened to sell at the same time that just happen to be in the same location. We could easily account for the desirability of the location by creating a land index number for each area that would be multiplied by the sf of the lot. Now we can go outside the 1 mile radius to find structures that are equally comparable as the lots are in the same area. By putting all the importance on the area, the structures are never comparable unless everyone is building the same exact thing. By valuing everything as the same, it forces sameness in the way we build

    I have a client with a unique home for sale. It was on TV, in magazines, on home tours, etc. Have your opinion about it, but it certainly garnered more attention than any other house that has sold recently in the area. Appraisals are coming in $100K less than what they feel is a bottom of the barrel price considering the initial cost. Several people have expressed interest in paying the asking price, but their banks refuse to appraise it any higher than the average sale of the cookie cutter houses that happened to sell recently. Yes, they could pony up their own money for the difference, but the bank told them it's not worth it based on unlike structures that happen to be in an area, so it scares them away as being an overpriced bad investment. So to get their money's worth, the bank tells them to buy a cheaper built house that looks like all of the others. 

    The banks ignore the will of the free market. They say that everyone is building a Honda, therefore your BMW is only worth what everyone else is building, Honda. They don't take into account that mass produced housing is less desirable. They ignore the fact that no one wants to live in the same house as their neighbor. Despite my track record, they are afraid that my unique, unproven designs that all sell for more than the plan recyclers will maybe flop this one time after 7-8 years of consistent performance, yet they give multiple loans to the guys who were stuck with 12 copies of the same thing during the crash.  The appraiser won't look at my track record or that of the builder. They look at what other builders and designers are doing to judge our project. The appraiser won't look at what makes this building unusual and more desirable, as their check list includes a very narrow set of criteria that doesn't include media coverage, home tours, or other indicators that people like this house more than the average cookie cutter. 

    Don't tell me that's just the way it is. Don't tell me we should just ignore something that affects us all because it's too big. This is the main reason all of us can't get better buildings built. The free market should decide what is desired as it does for every commodity other than property. Only giving value to green gadgets and not to a building that people simply desire more is a crime and not fixing the problem. Green is important, but it's not the only reason that a building should be considered more valuable per sf than another building. If more than one potential buyer expresses interest in a house and is willing to offer 10-20% more than the bottom of the barrel, code minimum, design minimum houses everyone else builds, then they should investigate a little further as to why. A unique design should score points, an Architect's involvement over recycling plans from an unknown author should score points, media attention should be an indicator of desirability, etc. The real kick in the jewels is that the tax assessor has charged them more for being unusual, yet the bank penalizes them for not being exactly the same. That's a double whammy for doing a better job and now they refuse to do another house like that again. The banks are deliberately killing off Architecture by not allowing the free market to decide. People avoid nicer houses because the bank tells them that the value numbers don't work. Everyone can roll over and accept it, but I'm NOT! The most disturbing thing about it all is that it's only some the Architects that resist these ideas, yet all of the agents and builders I talk to get it and agree. They think it's worth trying to change and we're the ones who benefit the most. That just speaks volumes about who we are and where this profession has gone and why. No wonder we just roll over and give everything away only to be abused even more. I think we're just gluttons for punishment. Perhaps we enjoy being victimized.



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  • 17.  RE:Impotent Organization in time of Crisis

    Posted 03-31-2011 10:56 AM
    I agree with Mr. Walker's comments regarding value and tying it solely to the architect's stamp.  The one point I would add about both appraisals and laws requiring an architect is that these are hyper-local issues.  Looking for a solution from DC is ineffective not because the national organization is ineffective, but because these are simply not national issues.  Thankfully.

    I previously worked in the policy and advocacy department of the USGBC and we were very interested in affecting the appraisal process for green building.  Turns out lots of people are, but agreeing on what inputs are meaningful, implementing those changes, and then tracking the results is a time-consuming process, and one that is driven by local data collected through the Multiple Listing Services (MLS), which are run by local Realtors.  A coalition of national organizations put together a good resource including specific case studies and market research at www.greeningthemls.com, and that site might provide a good starting point for anyone interested in impacting the appraisal process regarding the value of architects.  Again, this is a hyper-local process, and the good news is that you can have impact without the approval or involvement of anyone in Washington, DC. 

    Same thing with state licensing laws.  The surest way to ensure that no state adopts a policy to require architects' stamps on every single residential property regardless of size is to have the push for such a policy originate in Washington, DC.  If Massachusetts is the best example of a real state that has implemented laws that we like (it's the only one I've seen mentioned favorably in this discussion string), then let's see what's good about those specific laws, document their successes, and make a specific case to another local legislature.  If a local or state AIA component is the best vehicle for that effort, then great--they will get ample support from the national AIA.  For an example of this support, see the following story from last week in Architect Magazine regarding an effort by engineers in Texas to push back against a recent expansion of laws for architects:

    http://www.architectmagazine.com/legislation/in-texas-a-fight-between-architects-and-engineers.aspx

    This is an important conversation, and I'm glad we have a national venue like this to share these ideas and concerns.  But it's pointless to seek national leadership without local initiatives to hold up as succeses.  This doesn't mean that Washington is impotent, but only that Washington is neither the source of these problems nor the source of the best solutions. 


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  • 18.  RE:Impotent Organization in time of Crisis

    Posted 04-01-2011 08:18 AM
    The thing I love about blogs is the absolutism, the black or white of things. I never said the SOLE thing we should do is force our way into residential by requiring our stamps, via DC of all places. In fact, I said that I'm for requiring Architect's stamps, but this would be a very long process and would have to start at a jurisdiction by jurisdiction basis, not with DC. Where did this come from?

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  • 19.  RE:Impotent Organization in time of Crisis

    Posted 03-24-2011 12:18 AM
    My wife attended a College & Careers Counselors Convention in Santa Clara yesterday. Among the tidbits of information provided to her to pass on the new high school graduates this year was that Architecture was among the least attractive professions to pursue. The reasons cited were the many years of study and internship required, the exhaustive licensing process and- surprise surprise- the low pay and difficulty finding work!  What the hell happened to us! Mr. Henry is absolutely right. We are in the midst of a crisis.  If school counselors are telling our children not to become architects, something is seriously wrong. Who, I ask, is going to design our built environment after we are gone? 
    I have been following this blog for several months, now and feel a great deal of sympathy for the myriad complaints voiced herein. I think pretty much all of us agree about the problems and generally understand how we got here. John Henry is heralding a valiant cry for help that we all need, desperately to heed. To me, it is clear that we can no longer depend on the AIA or the various governmental agencies to take the lead here. I'm not suggesting that we abandon them altogether, they may jump on board and help at some point, but we are going to have to take full responsibility ourselves to turn this profession around and make it want we want it to be. 
    We are at a tipping point. History has placed us at a critical time and place where, like it or not, how we respond to this crisis will define the role of architects for a long time to come. We need a manifesto. We need to come together and decide exactly want we want right now. We need to list the things that we all can agree on unequivocally.  This does not need to be a long list but it needs to be precise and unequivocal. I will stick my neck out and start this list with the first item on my agenda.

    1. The responsible Architect will endeavor, to the best of his ability, to specify the products and materials whose production is the most sustainable, the least toxic to our natural and political environment.

    We really don't have a lot of time left.

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  • 20.  RE:Impotent Organization in time of Crisis

    Posted 03-25-2011 08:19 AM
    We will never expand our worth as long as we ignore the majority of residential work. There is a huge untapped resource of work that every trade, every building industry is involved, yet we're the only ones who refuse to touch it. We also happen to be the only profession in the industry that is this buggered! Duh! Every time our profession gets cut in half by these manufactured crises of our own making we always dream up more work for us to charge our clients for, but in the end we just do more work for the same fee. We keep driving ourselves further and further into a corner trying to do the same exact thing just a little different. Take a look back and tell me how this strategy has been working. 

    Although renovation work is quite lucrative right now, residential has been devastated and will take time to recover. Don't fool yourself, commercial can't possibly get any better any faster either. The GDP earned in Residential dwarfs commercial and we just refuse to get it. At one point, Architects were designing massive amounts of bungalows in the 1910-1920s, but we gave it all away in the form of plan books that were taken over by the hacks. In the 1950s the suburb was born and our involvement disappeared. 

    I've given plenty of my value lectures, but this is key to taking back the Residential sector. Requiring stamps would help too, but that is a very long term goal. We have to prove our worth first and the only way to do that is Appraisal Reform! Averaging the values of other people's projects is not a reflection of the will of the free market. The market cannot recognize a superior brand or product when value is homogenized. Right now, Architect designed houses tend to cost more to build, but the banks only see the average cost of what others are building, so our houses sell for less than what the owners pay. This looks bad for us. It looks like we can't design a house right. The reality is that the banks and appraisers can't tell the difference between BWW and Honda, so out of laziness they view everything as a Honda. As long as this continues, everyone will live in a Honda and we'll just dream of a market place where BMWs can exist.

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  • 21.  RE:Impotent Organization in time of Crisis

    Posted 03-25-2011 11:15 AM
    Eric Rawlings is correct. The time has come.

    I repeat and urge the action of organizing strong CRAN Chapters and will put it in simple terms:

    Organized groups of local Professional Registered Residential Architects = CRAN Chapters

    CRAN Chapters = Opportunity for Vendors and Suppliers to the Residential Market direct access to those who specify their products (these Suppliers are not hard to find)

    Direct access = Sponsorship $$$ (some directly diverted that currently go to other sources, which includes the mothership AIA, N-S-L)

    Sponsorship $$$ (especially diverted funds) = Attention from the mothership AIA

    Attention from the AIA = Negotiated access to the power of the Organization, PAC advocacy, and full resources

    Power and advocacy = Results (or a better chance for them)

    The "too late" factor lies with the $$$ the Vendors and Suppliers have to provide sponsorships in this declining market. I have personally spoken with several that have been totally dissatisfied with the return on their past investments with the AIA establishment. Suppliers that cater to the Residential market feel ignored too.

    The petition now should be for the AIA to support CRAN Chapter organization efforts and financial sovereignty for each. In return they have the opportunity prove their relevance to, and collect dues from, more of those who will feel duly represented.

    And yes, the CORA manifesto began a dialogue and raised eyebrows thanks to the credibility of it's Author's - but in the long run we all know money talks loudest, and the message is always heard.

    By the way, the other "snow" details (John Henry) of organized local public service and outreach also address the flip side of this coin - resurrecting the Professional stature of the Residential Architect to the local public. It is also the right thing to do, call it a fringe benefit.

    I have recently spoken with Architects from two other cities who are currently putting forth the effort to get CRAN Chapters organized, and hope for many more. Architects (most) are DOERS, not TALKERS. This is not a problem that we can blog away.

    The current prevailing perception that "housing is a crappy investment" should be modified to "crappy housing is a crappy investment", make it sustainable, hire an Architect. Also not sure, but hopeful about the chances for required stamping (a PAC is the best shot for that). I have dealt with building departments in some remote counties with barely enough sophistication to review plans in the first place.

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  • 22.  RE:Impotent Organization in time of Crisis

    Posted 03-25-2011 10:06 AM
    I have been following these discussions for awhile now and cannot help but believe that we Architects do not realize that we collectively have relegated our leadership role in design and construction to government bureacrates and the well intention but foolish folks who are writing and imposing the new codes on our profession and the clients we represent. Construction, or the lack of same is the reason why there are so many unemployed Architects, builders, trades people, suppliers, manufacturers, etc. The cost of new construction and the long, long delays in the review and approval process have become the problem (not just a part of the it). Anyone working with the new IBC and IRC has to be amazed by the outright fraud of the way these codes have been developed and implemented. They have become vehicles for special interest groups and manufacturers to impose their specific products and trades on the entire construction community.

    Time to revolt folks and take back that position of leadership and common sense that allows us to move the design and construction process.

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    Fred H. Bliefernich
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