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Reasons Why Architects are NOT asked to design a house

  • 1.  Reasons Why Architects are NOT asked to design a house

    Posted 01-18-2011 08:20 AM
    1. Builder control of the market: Custom builders work with Realtors and developers to edge out the architect, especially in gated communities where lot take down is complicit with under the table goodies to the Realtor.  Architects are presented to potential clients as boys the builders have in their back pockets.
    2. Plan Books: Architects who offer plan books and other hacks should be reprimanded/banned from the AIA.  While Palladio may have started this, our profession has been value engineered out of the equation when the layperson can buy a set of plans for $600-3,000. 
    3. Unlicensed building designers: there is simply too much competition to design the single family home from those taking advantage of the loophole in the law.  We have to close this exemption.  When starting out, we tend to stoop to match very low fee schedules.
    4. No backup from the AIA: skewed in favor of commercial design.  We are a weak subset of the profession and have absolutely no 'power' in our communities except through individual effort.  The budget of the NHBA is overwhelmingly in favor of touting builder interests over ours.
    5. Weak economy: we cannot wait for things to get better.  The cycle of boom bust is killing us.  Architects are being asked to cut fees to unreasonable levels.  A builder will rely on the lowest bottom denominator to design a spec and potential custom clients smell blood and are shopping for low fees.
    6. Inferior Decorators: are getting their finger in the pie.  They are hiring other building designers and architects to commandeer even our basic services.
    7. Design/Build outfits: in desperate (and even better) times architects are prostituting their design services by covering them in the cost of construction.  Free design if you come to us to build your house.  Of course: no competitive bidding, etc.
    8. please add your comment here....

     

    John Henry
    John Henry Design International, Inc.
    Orlando Florida
    www.dreamhomedesignusa.com
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  • 2.  RE:Reasons Why Architects are NOT asked to design a house

    Posted 01-19-2011 09:48 AM


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    Harrison McCampbell AIA
    Owner/Architect
    McCampbell & Associates, AIA
    Brentwood TN
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    Mr. Henry.
    Well said!  I have shared those same sentiments with many here in the construction/architecture residential circles for years.  Sadly, it's not unlike Mark Twain and the weather, in that most agree but don't feel anything they do will change things.  Guess that's the reasons we're stuck today.  One more major factor is something I shared in a "Specifier" article I did back in September of 2001 about the "or equal" mindset--"We'll never be able to protect owners against themselves."  In essence, as long as one makes low-cost-based decisions, then don't expect quality.  (If something doesn't work properly, no matter what it costs, it has little value.





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  • 3.  RE:Reasons Why Architects are NOT asked to design a house

    Posted 01-20-2011 05:53 AM
    I think people have a lot of reasons to call or not call an architect, and to choose who they like to call, eventually.
    I think the worst we can do is to ask them to call us at the end of a gun.
    If a law forces people to hire an architect to do a design they don't need, the only result you will have is people asking you to be cheap and quick.
    If you're a real good architect, you don't even think you will like it!
    The reality is that if a client prefers to hire a constructor, probably the constructor is able to satisfy the client better than an architect. We all must learn from this.
    The first rule if you want to improve and not cry like a child because the world is unfair is to understand that he client is not an idiot and he has always good reasons to make a choice.
    Discover these reasons and fight your battle as an architect!


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    Giuliana Barbano Intl. Assoc. AIA
    Studio Barbano
    Torino

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  • 4.  RE:Reasons Why Architects are NOT asked to design a house

    Posted 01-21-2011 04:44 AM
    Firstly I would like to thank everyone for their honest and heartfelt contributions, I have been really enjoying this discussion.

    I have two questions.

    When we leave our home country, there is a high degree of likelihood that, despite a degree, official accreditation and considerable time and expense becoming registered, we are no longer able to call ourselves an "Architect". All of us are again considered "designers" (with a small "d"). If we are Canadian and we are applying for US registration, there is a reciprocal agreement which lets us gain a US licence without too much fuss, but for the rest of us the process can be extremely long, expensive and drawn out. When are we going to develop international architectural accreditation of Degree Programs and reciprocal licensing? Having studied in both the US and Australia in my opinion both educations were virtually identical. I am sure this is the case for many other countries. We could have an additional exam for each country or state in which you would like to practise to cover local rules and regulations but for the most part the accreditation would be the same.

    Secondly, it may be time to come up with a new moniker for our profession. In many ways the title "Architect" has already been lost. One only needs to scan the newspaper job ads to see various requests for "Information Architect", "Naval Architect" and even at my local milkbar, a "Sandwich Architect". 

    It is a protected word, except when it is not. 

    Either we take the name back completely or come up with something new. Personally I was always fond of being a "Fred" but I would be open to short, catchy alternatives. 

    A big hello from the far south, we hear great news of the northern economy improving and I hope it is true.

    Yours sincerely,
    Kathryn
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    Kathryn Underwood Assoc. AIA
    Sydney, Australia-------------------------------------------






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  • 5.  RE:Reasons Why Architects are NOT asked to design a house

    Posted 01-21-2011 10:49 AM


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    Chris Semmelink AIA LEED AP
    South Weymouth MA
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    It boils down to perceived value and dollars and cents.  My daughter's house burnt down.  The insurance company allows $2000 to redesign the house including all work required to obtain a permit.  I am not sure if that includes a new property survey.  That is their perceived value of what an architect s worth.  The original house was a stock plan form a local lumber yard, a "garrison style" that doesn't relate to its physical environment but doesn't challenge the community's notion of "house."  A large percentage of the contractor community rightfully and wrongfully recommends stock plans - that they can mark up - because no one will bother them during construction and everything will be familiar for their crews.  They are trying to make money.  Successful work in your community should be based on working with contractors by providing them with build-able documents and being clear of intent.  If disparaging remarks are made of the profession or your design, stand up for yourself.

    As the need for and the codification of energy and resource conservation becomes more certain, we should lead the way by being knowledgeable and agents for change.  Let the local building inspectors and contractors know that you will add value and make the process smoother.  Understand their needs.  Then market and sell your services with a clear understandings of what you do and what you don't do.

    In the big-building market place, contractors / CM's are running ahead of the design community in embracing new technologies.  Architects are being marginalized to being just another consultant.  We need to change this dynamic as do the residential architects.

    Knowledge is power - so we, as architects, have to keep learning and then to teach our communities what value is or sit on the side lines.





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  • 6.  RE:Reasons Why Architects are NOT asked to design a house

    Posted 01-20-2011 02:06 PM

    Eric,

    I appreciate your response and comments, but I assure you that once licensed, I will not feel any differently than I do now!

    I encourage all who want to design to go ahead and design!  Talent comes in many forms and through various backgrounds.  Building codes provide a standard for Life/Safety issues for residential and commercial projects.  While I agree a fully licensed Architect or Engineer being required to design and stamp any commercial project, I feel strongly that any residential design submitted for a building permit that meets all the applicable building Codes be granted a permit for construction.

    Allowing for people to find the most affordable path to home ownership is key to maintaining a strong construction and design industry.  Architects do not hold a monopoly on design, and by forcing a stamp on people simply to try to prop up a profession that has dug its own ego-centric hole for itself does little to improve the image of the Architect or the profession in the eye of the general public. 

    Our economy is based on competition.  Build a better mouse trap, and you will have them lining up at the door.
     
    If the profession of Architecture is to win over the general public with its value, it needs to be less full-of-itself and more willing to place the good of the community over the importance of ego:
    1. Pro-bono work
    2. Community architecture offices staffed by people willing to design to improve the character and quality of residential architecture
    3. Architects teaching courses to builders to help them understand the nuances of residential architecture
    4. Employing an Architect in the Local Building Official's Office to review submittals and to better ensure design integrity
    5. Call in radio programs to allow people to speak with Architects and design professionals about issues
    6. More Samuel Mockbee's in the world

    The list is endless.

    Rather than building a wall to keep people out, we should try to build a bridge to let people in, regardless of how they get there.

    I wish everyone well in their efforts to weather this recession.  I would welcome the oportunity to collaborate with anyone on projects or ideas that further the accessability of the profession of Architecture to the entire public at large.

    PEACE,

    -Tom 

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    Thomas Weber - Assoc. AIA. LEED-AP, NCARB
    Principal/Owner
    Human Element Design, LLC
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  • 7.  RE:Reasons Why Architects are NOT asked to design a house

    Posted 01-21-2011 11:10 AM


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    Kenneth Dahlin AIA
    Architect


    Mr. Henry,

    I have specialized in single-family residential for 20 years now and can sympathize with your points below since I have faced those same challenges in my practice.  I have found residential architecture difficult in my market, far away from the West or East coasts where high-end residential design has a larger critical mass to pull from.

    I want to point out something on the positive side, however, that I believe could give us a foundation to build upon.  When I consider the clients who have come to me over the years and those jobs that have sustained us I see that there really is a sizable minority of clients "out there" who are disappointed in the typical builder's fare paraded about in our typical American subdivisions and real estate venues.  There really are a lot of people who love architecture for its own sake and want to live in a home that is a work of art.  Unfortunately I also see many of these whose passions far exceed their budgets, but in some cases we can still design an artful but economical design.  In other cases they simply cannot afford the custom approach.  There is very often a personal romance about having a home designed for you that the commercial segment can't compare with. Those clients with this passion really are looking for architects that share that passion.  Often they cannot verbalize it but the know it when they see it.  When they see that you as an architect love what you do and can show them what they are seeking I find making the "sale" quite natural.  

    So, I have to step back and ask where these "good" clients are coming from and how to cultivate this market. Based on my own experience with them I see that they read about good architecture like they read about what is good art or furniture.  They have read Susanka's books and many of the popular architectural genre books.  And some are even more knowledgeable and have read lesser known books of architectural masters great and small.   These are the clients who value what we do. Certainly we can show them the value of our added technical and professional contribution.  We can show them our ability to design sustainably; however, I think what seals the deal is that they want an artist, not just a technician. 

    So how is this market cultivated?  I think the positive sign is that what cultivates this market has actually been taking place -- books, magazines, newspaper articles, home tours, internet exposure, etc that talk about the process of architecture, that focus on design, etc.  

    I know this economy is no encouragement to wait for these special clients and we have made severe cuts in our staff as many have.  Yet, even now, we are seeing that those clients who we do have still fit that mold of having put a high value on design.  And so as we market our firms and work, I think we need to put ourselves in these client's shoes and ask ourselves what are they looking for -- and make sure we are putting this out in front of them.

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    Kenneth Dahlin AIA
    Architect
    Genesis Architecture, LLC
    Racine WI
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  • 8.  RE:Reasons Why Architects are NOT asked to design a house

    Posted 01-19-2011 09:56 AM
    I roughly quote Steven Covey: When you think the problem is "out there," that very thought itself is the problem.

    My experiences over the years in residential practice were highly successful, but due to specializing in upscale markets. Indeed there are people out there who draw house plans (intentional lack of the use of the word "design"), and there are customers out there who only believe that is what their homes (read: "lives") are worth. We did not care to try to compete in those markets. Seek out clients who want your services and value architects. If you are not designing to the standards and expectations of your ideal clients, it's time to change your game.
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    David Clarke AIA, Senior Architect
    Williams Design Group, Inc.
    President-Elect, AIA New Mexico Southern Chapter
    Las Cruces NM

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  • 9.  RE:Reasons Why Architects are NOT asked to design a house

    Posted 01-19-2011 10:06 AM
    John Henry's summary of the issue is good but I would like to offer a suggestion in response to him and to others.  Architects, either singly or in groups, could move from a passive to an active position in the residential market by forming investment groups that would control either individual properties or multiple tracts. This assertive position, while not suitable or possible for everyone, would make the architect the team leader again. I know of at least one architect who has done this on the west coast, and there are others who are doing this in NYC.

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    Daniel Alter AIA
    Daniel Alter Architect PLLC
    Brooklyn NY
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  • 10.  RE:Reasons Why Architects are NOT asked to design a house

    Posted 01-19-2011 02:10 PM
    8. VALUE!!! When an appraiser values a cheap builder box at the same price per square foot as a higher quality house designed by a professional, then what do you think people are going to build? Why would you build a BMW when it's only valued as a Honda? Appraisers mainly look at a tight radius on the location and the square footage of a prospective house. The value is based on other like structures in the area called "comps". If your proposed house has no comparable structure in the area, then the value tends to be skewed to fit the "area". If you build a house 2x the size of everything else, then you will NOT likely get the same value per square foot as the typical smaller house. The area pulls down the price. You could clad the building in gold leaf, outfit it with golden toilets from Saddam's Palace, and have Gehry's autograph on every window and the appraiser will value it no different than the cheapest built 10,987th copy of a mass produced chunk of crap of the same size and location. In no other industry in this country can you find mass produced, factory grade items being valued or sold at the same price as a custom made item. Only in housing is this possible. Only in housing does "custom" mean three choices of cabinets, paint, and trim packages for the same exact design. 

    No one can put a price on beauty, as it is in the eye of the beholder, but you can value houses of higher quality more accurately. I know you get a little bump for a nicer kitchen with granite countertops and you might get a $5000 upgrade for installing that $30,000 pool, but the items appraisers are looking for that give you drips of value rarely appraise for the actual cost of installation. The fact that the wrath of the free market has returned most property values back to 2000-2003 levels goes to show you that appraisers and banks have no idea how to value houses accurately. They purposefully drove the values up to get people interested in spending their "free" equity, but the free market disagreed as wages didn't match the skyrocketing property values of 2003-2006. Appraisal Reform is 100% necessary before the free market will allow quality to compete with quantity in the housing market. Gucci, Armani, BMW, etc only exist because they are valued differently from the cheaper, knock off competition. CF Martin Guitar is the oldest handmade guitar manufacturer in America and also one of the oldest manufacturers in the entire US (who won't be going to China). They sell their handmade guitars for thousands of dollars, yet you can buy a factory made Mexican Fender that looks sort of like it for $200. There is a huge difference between the mass produced builder box and custom designed houses by professionals and the industry MUST recognize this before anything changes.

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    Eric Rawlings AIA
    Owner
    Rawlings Design, Inc.
    Decatur GA
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  • 11.  RE:Reasons Why Architects are NOT asked to design a house

    Posted 01-20-2011 09:26 AM
    I disagree with your assesment.  I design primarily single family homes - never does any client of mine want a higher appraised value.  They do want quality, character, energy efficiency, and appealing, functional spaces, they never want a higher property tax bill.  I think raising assesments for those features over a 'box' house would discourage custom building.  When they do decide to put their house on the market, there is a greater demand and interest for their home over a 'box' and that's what sets them apart even to the point of a higher sale price.

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    Christina Amey AIA
    Christina Amey Architect LLC
    Ocean City NJ
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  • 12.  RE:Reasons Why Architects are NOT asked to design a house

    Posted 01-20-2011 09:35 PM
    Christina,
    Over appraising is one matter. The issue is not over valuing a house and taxes. The issue is accurately valuing houses. Getting a loan for a higher quality house can be difficult when appraisers are not valuing them any more than mass produced houses of lower quality. This gives no incentive to do a better job. It makes everything equal, regardless of merit. It's like everyone gets paid the same regardless of how good of a job they do.

    I have a few spec builders that cater to a higher end clientele that want unique designs without the wait. They are constantly having problems getting lending without bringing more of their own money to the table when their competitors are clearly building a much lesser quality home. After 7 years, the bank still appraises my client's homes at the same "rate" as the competition, yet our houses consistently sell faster and for more money. The bank sees no difference between a unique design each time and repeating the same design every time. Value is important when financing higher quality projects. Some people are fine living with less space, but want better quality and they get penalized for downsizing, but little reward for upgrading. Spec builders will continue to build most of the single family homes, but they have few reasons to use us or build anything other than cheap, big, and quick.

    I have other clients that want to build with steel instead of sticks and the bank can't figure out how to value it. They get more queasy the more radical the idea. These clients bring a lot of their own money to the table as they never get the lending for choosing W sections over LVLs. 

    We need incentive for doing a better job. Some would say that's the American way. That's what Capitalism is all about. If we ignore merit we are doomed to compete for the lowest denominator. The consumer should be rewarded for having taste, not penalized. We should have broader categories of appraisal values that more accurately reward quality to discourage the quantity. Cheap mass produced crap should be devalued. I have never met an American that wanted to live in the same house as their neighbors, so why are we rewarding this model by dragging everything else down to this level? No one needs us to design cheap crap, but they do need us to compete for quality!

    The housing market will need values to rise well above construction cost before things return to a more normal pace and many places are very upside down. We should encourage people to invest more in the quality of their homes. Green features, structural systems other than sticks, equal value for higher quality appliances, fixtures, etc. would improve the home in a real, physical way rather than the fantasy ride we were just taken on when the same house doubled in value in a few years for no known reason at all. This would also inspire consumer spending on better, more expensive products and strengthening the economy as a whole. Value should be based on real investment of tangible goods, not bad paper.

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    Eric Rawlings AIA
    Owner
    Rawlings Design, Inc.
    Decatur GA
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  • 13.  RE:Reasons Why Architects are NOT asked to design a house

    Posted 01-19-2011 05:05 PM

    John,

    I'm troubled by the tone and approach you are taking in your recent post regarding the Reasons Why Architects are not asked to design a house.  I especially take issue with reason #3, in which you suggest that unlicensed building designers are taking advantage of the Loophole in the law.

    I have a Master Degree in Architecture, have my NCARB certificate, Am a Certified LEED-AP and have over 14-years in the profession of architecture.  I have won a number of AIA awrads for my work at the firms I have worked for.  Yet, I feel you would throw me into the definition of the unlicensed building designer, and therefore want to prevent me from making a living by designing homes for people who want a custom designed home.  

    While I am only a few exams away from completing my ARE's, I am not a licensed Architect.  As it has been noted on this very forum in the past few months, the ARE's are expensive and very time consuming.  Does that mean if you cannot take the exams due to financial circumstances, you should be shunned from designing homes?  I would hope that you would look back at history and understand that many of the residences in our historic cities that we value as regional or national treasures were designed and built by Master Carpenters who had little formal training.  These homes still stand and without the official seal of an Architect on any plans.

    People place value on quality and are willing to pay for it.  If you are putting out a quality product, at a fair market price, then people will recognize that and seek your product out.  I think your call to action on closing a loophole will only come back to bite you through resentment from the consumer, and therefore do more harm to the profession than any good you may try to suggest.

    The profession of architecture is on life support.  Those graduating will find few jobs, and those that land a job will find a depressed salary for their services.  The path to licensure is tremendously long and costly.  It becomes the single biggest turn-off to those considering the profession.  And when they realize there is little money to  be made, they think long and hard about continuing down the path.  The Dept of Labor has reported that in 2008 at the onset of the Recssion, there were approximately 250,000 Architects employed in the U.S.  The past 2+ years have seen close to 85,000 of those jobs shed to the recession.

    I suggest that the AIA pursue the licensing of Residential Architects, similar to Physician Assistants or Nurse Practioners for the field of Medicine.  This provides a middle tier for the profession, and in a time when fewer people are atracted to the profession, may offer a compromise for people considering Architecture.  This could then ensure that the Life Safety concerns of the general public are addressed, while allowing those that really only want to design homes meet a minimum standard.  The Residential Architect designation would then give the AIA another "brand" to market, and could inject so much needed energy and press coverage into the profession.  I would still allow anyone un-licensed to design homes provided the designs meet all applicable building codes. 

    I truly enjoy designing, in all aspects of the word.  I feel it would be a disservice to try to exclude people from designing homes simply because they are not Licensed as an Architect. Provided any Life Safety issues have been addressed in any design waiting for a building permit, these homes should be allowed to be built.

    The pond is big enough for everyone to swim in.

    -Tom
      
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    Thomas Weber Assoc. AIA
    Human Element Design, LLC
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  • 14.  RE:Reasons Why Architects are NOT asked to design a house

    Posted 01-20-2011 07:31 AM
    Thomas,
    Your tune will change when you finally pass all of your exams. I compete mainly with unlicensed residential designers who often call themselves Architects and misrepresent their qualifications as being the same as mine. It's not the same and that's why I have stamps and they don't. The most insulting thing is that some of these jokers charge as much or more than me because regular people don't understand there's a difference. This is because the majority of people designing houses are NOT ARCHITECTS, but like George Costanza, they always wanted to be one.

    I believe there are plenty of residential designers out there that are capable of passing the ARE, but they've become lazy because the system encourages this. If we could license all the these designers, our professional group would more than double. With more numbers, the AIA and the profession in general will become stronger. If stamps were required on residences, Architecture firms could more than double their work load or in theory we could more than double the number of firms. This would translate to better wages and a more lucrative profession for talented students to consider. 

    One thing we really need more than anything is to slow down the mass production of housing. This model became outdated after the Baby Boom in the 50s and is in part responsible for the housing crash. This volume based mentality is driven by the fact that cheap repetitive builder boxes are valued about the same per sq ft as a high end house in the same area of the same size. Requiring stamps won't stop some of these builders from finding a low rent Architect to stamp the cookie cutters, but it will encourage a quality based market to compete with the quantity based market, as many of us won't stamp something we aren't proud of. 

    There are thousands of talented Architects that lost their jobs at no fault of their own. These people could become successful sole proprietors doing residential work, but as it stands the designers have control of the market because Architects designing houses for the top 2% ignores 98% of the rest of America. 

    This could be a simple jurisdiction by jurisdiction effort. Places like Atlanta have plenty of Architects, many unemployed, and this area could handle the transition. The building dept already requires the type of drawings that a professional should be preparing. The liability that the building dept accepts when an unknown, unqualified, unlicensed designer is submitting drawings would be dispersed if a state qualified professional stamped them. Plan reviewers would see much better drawings being submitted than the pathetic crap they normally drudge through. This could be very beneficial to the building dept! NY already requires Architect/ Engineer stamps on houses. What are we waiting for?

    You may feel threatened by this right now, but your tune will change when you finally complete your professional requirements and your unlicensed competition continues to compare itself equally to you because they can. Because you're not required!

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    Eric Rawlings AIA
    Owner
    Rawlings Design, Inc.
    Decatur GA
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  • 15.  RE:Reasons Why Architects are NOT asked to design a house

    Posted 01-20-2011 05:12 PM


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    Thomas Streicher AIA
    Thomas Streicher, Architect
    Monroe NY
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    *** The tone and approach of this message may trouble some readers, no offence is intended***

    Tom, I hate to point it out, but according to your description of yourself you are an un-licensed building designer and as such should be "thrown in" with that group. I think some AIA members are thinking a line has to be drawn somewhere as to who can design a building. It looks like many think that line should be a license and registration in the state the building will be built in. I do think you are correct saying closing the loophole will cause resentment with the customers; nobody likes to pay more, especially for something they don't understand, like architectural services.

    I agree with your comment "the path to licensure is tremendously long and costly" (well perhaps not tremendously, it took a few months of studying and cost a good chunk of change, but isn't the end of the world). However, the ARE is also a good way to determine minimal qualifications. Compare it to a test to get a driver's license, if one can't pass because they make mistakes, perhaps they should not be driving even if they have to get from point A to point B. They also have to pay to take the test and even pay for driving instruction if they need it.

    I also agree the profession of architecture is as you say "on life support". I am currently very disappointed with the profession (and my hopes where not that high to start with). At the age of 46  I am considering a change (to what I don't know). One of my biggest disappointments is related to your comment on quality getting recognized. After well over 20 years in the game, it has become obvious it's not what you know or how talented you are but who you know and whose rear end you kiss.  And of course how low your price is a big factor too. I once had a potential client after rejecting a modest proposal ask me to seal drawings prepared by a "designer". I explained the illegalities of this to them and declined. Incidentally I low-baled that proposal, I am guilty of trying that tactic to get a project I am particularly interested in, even if it doesn't make any money and even if it sets low pricing standards (another topic on these forums).  Those of us that pay annual liability insurance premiums, AutoCAD subscription fees, AIA membership, registration fees can only lower our price so far. If "the pond is big enough for everyone to swim in" the way things are now, nobody is getting wet enough for it to be worth the effort.

    I took a look at your web site. By the look of it you built a pretty good business, kudos to you for being able to do that. I can't seem to be able to do it with a license; I still work for another architect and moonlight (at least I used to, no work out there) and want to be my own boss, apparently being the principal is the only way to make a decent living (apologies to principals that are having it tough)

     

    PS. You say you have an NCARB certificate and then mention you are a few exams from passing the A.R.E.  I always thought registration in at least one State was a requirement for being NCARB certified.


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  • 16.  RE:Reasons Why Architects are NOT asked to design a house

    Posted 01-21-2011 05:20 PM


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    Thomas Wagner AIA
    Thomas B. Wagner, Architect
    Haddonfield NJ
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    Its amazing how many Thomas we have!
    I respectfully disagree with Giuliana and promote laws requiring licenced architects to design all structures as is required in most of the northeast states.  Would you like to have your physician not required to be licenced?  How about a lawyer who hasn't passed the bar?  Why can't we all practive medicine or law without degrees??  Because it is a matter of safety.  YOu should be required to pass exams, indicating technical ability at the least to design a structure.  Why should a house be any different than any other building type? 

    I am not trying to take work away from "designers", but a licenced architect at the least, should be required to review, sign and seal, for a fee, anythng that is to be built (other than for yourself).  I personally will not provide this service, and review and sign others drawings or "canned plans" but some will do this.  A law such as this may not create better design per se, but it will make builders seek out licenced professionals who presumably are good architects to provide these services. 

    Personally, I would like to write my own prescriptions, why do I need a medical degree to know that I can use a little Prozac once in a while??

    Thomas Wagner



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  • 17.  RE:Reasons Why Architects are NOT asked to design a house

    Posted 01-19-2011 08:52 PM

    John,

    I would like to address your item #1. I agree that in most markets around the country Custom Builders and/or Realtors control the Custom Residential market. I think this can be changed and Custom Residential Architects are able to do it by demonstrating to the consumer that they will not only bring good design, but also a great value for the money that they will pay us. This will also gain the respect of Builders as they appreciate the unique qualities that we bring to the project and that they can't replicate.

    I have been operating in Austin, Texas as a Residential Architect and also as a Home Builder for the last 30 years and I have seen this city turned from a Builder town to an Architect's Mecca. Builders still have an influence, but Architects have gain tremendous ground. This has been possible thanks to the hard and dedicated work of several great Residential firms in our community that are lifting the entire profession.
    Our local AIA/CRAN has been very successful in bringing this group under one tent for great fellowship and best practices learning monthly.

    I am sharing with you and the Forum an email that I received today confirming my point:

    From: "Jeremy" <
    jeremy@rishermartin.com>

    >Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:43am

    >To: "luis@aiaaustin.org" <luis@aiaaustin.org>

    >Subject: CRAN Committee

    >

    >Luis,

    >

    >I'm a custom home builder and renovator in Central Austin whose been a

    >member of HBA of Austin and NARI for quite a while.  We just joined AIA

    >as an Allied member and I'm looking to get involved, help out anyway I

    >can, and participate as much as possible.  I've met you a couple times

    >at various Custom Builder Council meetings and have always respected

    >your work and approach.  In a recent CBC meeting at Exclusive Windows &

    >Doors you mentioned how this town used to be a "builder" town and now

    >has become more of an "architect" town.  With that in mind, I was

    >hoping to join your committee to understand how we can get more

    >involved with architects.

    >

    >If you have a spot for me, please let me know how I could help.  Thanks.

    >

    >Regards,

    >Jeremy Martin

    I know the market is bad, but we all must hang in there and if we stick together we can kick some butt.

    Cheers.

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    Jauregui Architecture Interiors Construction
    Austin TX
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  • 18.  RE:Reasons Why Architects are NOT asked to design a house

    Posted 01-22-2011 03:38 PM

    8.Entitlements-We can no longer take W.D.'s directly to permit. Additional requirements such as energy ratings, site plan reviews, solar shadow analysis, and Leed add to client expectations, boost our liability and resposibility, and stretch payments from clients. These new layers of service are coming as fast and furious as city planners can create them and we are stressed to keep up with them. Time for delivery is often  delayed and it may also be difficult to recapture our fees accordingly!
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    Architect/ Principal
    Jeffrey K. Abrams Architect P.C.
    Boulder CO
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  • 19.  RE:Reasons Why Architects are NOT asked to design a house

    Posted 01-22-2011 06:51 PM
    As someone who has been doing residential work for almost 30 years, I have developed some strong opinions on this matter. My biggest complaint with architects is that they have done a really poor job of communicating their VALUE (beyond "good design") to prospective clients. And the AIA is not helping them much. In fact, I doubt if many of them even could even come up with three things that would make them compare favorably to a design/build contractor, or an unlicensed drafting service, beyond "good design."

    Most prospective clients would love to get "good design", whatever that is, of course, rather than "amateur design", if all other things were equal, but they are not. For the run of the mill client, good (or exceptional) design ranks pretty far down on the list of overall project needs: like meeting their budget, getting their functional requirements met, not having huge overruns of time and cost, dealing with the stress of construction, finding a good contractor, shopping for lighting fixtures and tile, etc. So the particular commodity most architects feel they have to sell is not particularly compelling to the average residential buyer of design. Nice to have, maybe, but non-essential. No wonder many architects feel like they are simply a luxury.

    Then there are the FEARS that prospective clients have: an architect is going to cost so much more than another type of unlicensed design service, they will be forced to accept a "high design style" that they really don't like (and many, if not most, of architects are not particularly enamored of doing a country-style kitchen), that there will be inevitable battles between the architect and the contractor, that the meter of fees is always ticking, etc. And many of these fears are also explicitly promulgated by design-builders.

    I would like to see architects understanding and selling their VALUE, perhaps with better support from the AIA. For example, off the top of my head (and I could come up with more):

    1. Good planning can allow you to build less square footage. (Value engineering.)
    2. The plans and specifications that an architect produces are usually more detailed than a drafting service, leading to a smaller contingency fund on the part of a contractor, and fewer surprises during construction.
    3. The architect is on top of current products and trends, and can suggest products and construction methods that can save money without a conflict of interest.
    4. The plans are produced independently, giving a customer flexibility with choosing a contractor.
    5. If conflicts or questions arise, they will have a fiduciary on their side.
    6. They will be hiring someone who has experience dealing with planning boards and city officials.
    7. And, oh, yeah, they will get a better "design" which could result in a higher resale value.

    None of this gets into the concept that the client is hiring someone who views them as a patron who is funding a work of art, as most architectural magazine implicitly suggest. (Not that I'm opposed to this, but it's very difficult to sell to a prospective client. But great work if you can get it.)

    While I'm on my soapbox, I would like to opine that architects who have abdicated their role in the interior design aspects of a residential project (at least in getting an interior designer involved as a consultant), probably shouldn't even be doing it at all. I don't really understand why so many architects have turned their backs on what could be a very lucrative profit center, in addition to helping them sell jobs over their competitors, and having the project turn out so much better. Not every residential project needs new furniture or window treatments, of course, but they ALL need intelligent furniture placement, and often kitchen design. In some cases, this has doubled my architectural fees for a project. There is potentially a huge money pie that is just getting sliced up and handed out to others -- mostly because architects don't want to, or aren't trained to, deal with these aspects. Of course, these are also the architects who are also whining that "there is no money in residential design."

    I recently was having breakfast with an architect colleague who was relating how, during his vacation, he came across the PERFECT light fixture for a project, and sent an iPhone picture to his client, who loved it. I asked how much he marked up the fixture (which was very expensive). No, he'd just sent the details of the product to his client and let the client make his own purchase. With a significant trade discount, he could have marked up the product and still have provided it for less than the client paid. Everybody lost on that one. (Except the vendor, of course.) Architects are often their own worst enemies.
     
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    Richard Morrison, AIA, ASID
    Redwood City CA
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  • 20.  RE:Reasons Why Architects are NOT asked to design a house

    Posted 01-24-2011 12:19 PM
    Mr. Morrison touches on the the real problem, but let me elaborate. We are not casting a large enough net. When all of us talk about residential work, there is an immediate assumption that the owner is above the regular guy, middle class income. Our problem is that we've become to snobby to understand how to offer our services to the regular guy, THE MAJORITY OF WORK OUT THERE!!!! 

    We all do lousy bread & butter work. Residential renovations can be a great source of bread & butter income. I've found that there is a huge void that needs to be filled with regular people forced to renovate as selling isn't wise right now. Builders tend to "design" for ease of construction at the expense of the aesthetics and functionality of the building. By the time a homeowner finds me they've been turned down by the Architecture firms, the builder's ideas are practical, ugly, and dysfunctional, and the residential designers are very limited to a small palate of moves and motifs, not to mention a HUGE range of inconsistency in ability. People seek me out because I have AIA after my name and they know I have, at very least, some sort of basic qualifications as opposed to the designer of unknown qualifications. They see my yard signs and know I get things built.

    Regular people need good ideas and a building permit. Unlike wealthy people who can pay someone to do all the things they have no time for, regular people are naturally more self reliant out of necessity. Many times these people want to pick their paint, fixtures, countertops, etc. All they need from us is a good design and a building permit. Most builders don't have time to draw up a renovation set, so many of them will bring me work. Our problem is that we think they need more documentation and "service" than the reality. Most people have a few thousand to spend on a permit set and realize the builder will get it if you don't. You have to let go of the control, let the builder deal with the homeowner's selections if it's just a bedroom addition anyway. Let the builder take ownership and reduce your liability, it's not a magazine job. Get in and out on the front end. Your main job in their mind is providing a design that will get them a permit!

    Many are worried about liability. I've found that we often get ourselves in trouble by over specifying products we don't understand or haven't used. Products that only an installer would really know. If the Building Dept only needs basic information in the wall section, then why get so specific? Again, it's just a bedroom addition! When the builder takes over the project, if they change anything, they've bought some more liability. Law suits are really a matter of perception. If the owner hires you to get them a permit, then that's what they hold you responsible for, but if the builder is the person who selects the actual products like waterproofing, the shingles, appliances, etc. then they are perceived as the responsible party. How often is a plan book sued? They provide basic information using the standard pieces and parts available to all home builders. The minute you throw in a commercial grade item, you now open yourself up to potential problems. Again we're talking about Mr. & Mrs. Smith's bedroom addition down the street, not the next cover story on Architecture magazine. I've had over 200 middle class residential clients since 2000 and zero lawsuits. These little jobs always lead to the more exciting jobs and even commercial work! 

    Trying to soak every cent out of a client may be a popular strategy, but it leaves us with an expectation that clients have to have a certain minimum account size in order for us to provide every service possible. This is how we disqualify ourselves out of the gate without even trying. Some demographics are more suited for full service, but 90% of the rest of America can't afford it. I've made a decent living at this and survived this recession near an area that was deemed #17 on the top 100 foreclosed metro areas in the US in 2009. The more upside property values are in your area, the more likely people will renovate before upgrading. I divulge my trade secrets because there is a HUGE wealth of this type of work available all over the country, but there won't be any requests for proposals or competitions. You have to simply talk to regular people. Almost every time I tell someone I'm an Architect, they immediately start talking about a problem they have with their house. That's a simple conversation and you have to say you're an Architect with great confidence, not shame. We need more of us doing this so that regular people will know who we are. If we cater to less than 10% of American income levels, then why would anyone know who were are? This is paid marketing and community/professional service! The larger the fee the more likely I'm upside down on my time. These little quickies can earn over $100/hr if you're quick, concise, and understand exactly what the code official needs. You can often get paid within a month from beginning the project and most folks are in too much of a hurry by the time they find you to dilly dally during design. It's not usually sexy, but it keeps the doors open while opening other future doors.



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    Owner
    Rawlings Design, Inc.
    Decatur GA
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