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A Reply to Ryan Smith

  • 1.  A Reply to Ryan Smith

    Posted 08-19-2011 05:18 PM
    This message has been cross posted to the following Discussion Forums: Technology in Architectural Practice Knowledge Community Advisory Group and Technology in Architectural Practice .
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    Prof. Ryan Smith recently posted a thoughtful article on architectural education and integration (http://network.aia.org/CenterforIntegratedPractice/Home/OnEducation/ ) He writes, "[i]n order to prepare students and service the profession in the new integrated paradigm educators and administrators in schools and colleges of design need to revamp the traditional studio model that focuses on one-on-one formal manipulation." He goes on to advocate a greater focus on collaboration, especially interdisciplinary work with students in engineering and construction management programs. I'd like to say a few words in defense of traditional architectural education, centered on the design studio with coursework that emphasizes architectural thought and history.

    The aim of architecture school has never been to simulate practice or even, strange as it may seem, to specifically prepare students for the world of practice. The primary goal of architectural education has traditionally been to inculcate the values of architecture in students. These derive from the unique place architects hold in the building industry. There are values that society wants taken into account in our built environment that have no natural advocates in a market-driven design-construction process. As is the case with all liberal professions, architecture exists to bring these social values to its domain. This is what makes architects unique among the members of a project team. This is the defining quality of architecture.

    The time students can spend in school is limited compared with the knowledge they should ideally possess when they graduate. A curriculum must make hard choices. School is where they learn to be architects, as distinct from more specialized designers, engineers, contractors and owners. The essential content of an architectural education is ideological. An architecture school has five or six years to ingrain in its students the notion that they must be the advocates of social and humanistic values in building. The collaborative interdisciplinary work recommended by Prof. Smith may help them learn how this might be done in a team environment- a useful exercise to be sure. However, before they can do this, they must believe that doing it is essential and have a well-formed idea of what values they wish to bring to their work. That must be the primary emphasis of architectural education. In other words, the "what" must precede the "how".

    Before architects become collaborators they must know in their own minds what they want to see happen and, to the extent possible, why. Architects must bring the the central ideas to the design process- no one else can or will. Doing this well requires a great deal of practical knowledge of construction and skill in working collaboratively with other people. But first it requires having ideas worth realizing. Prof. Smith's vision of the architect as  " the key collaborator or facilitator of a building process that oscillates between stakeholders" may be an accurate description of our daily work, but it is not why we are there. We are there to give voice and potency to ideas that create a built environment that does more than reflect economic, technical and organizational constraints. We are there to bring ideas and values to the creation of a built environment that reflects our societies' deeper needs and place in history.

    This will seem like idealistic nonsense to some. Precisely.

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    David Scheer AIA, AICP, LEEDap
    TAP 2012 Chair
    Principal
    Scheer & Scheer, Inc.
    Salt Lake City UT
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  • 2.  RE:A Reply to Ryan Smith

    Posted 08-22-2011 09:37 AM


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    Thomas Downer AIA
    Owner
    Downer/Associates
    Cambridge MA
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    David,
    I couldn't agree more.







  • 3.  RE:A Reply to Ryan Smith

    Posted 08-23-2011 02:45 PM
    This is in response to David Sheer, AIA:
    I wonder about the notion of bathing architecture students in theory for 4-6 years and expecting them to transform into productive, knowledgeable licensed architects; is this a realistic model in the 21st century?  In regards to what Ryan Smith said, I think his recommended direction toward a more collaborative-oriented studio is a good one, in part.  In my opinion, a successful architecture curriculum cannot be either/or- all Theory or BIM/IPD infused with history/theory/culture/art- but must be both as well as add a third component, that of better instruction on construction methods and materials. 

    In Mr. Sheer's post to Ryan Smith, he stated:

    "He goes on to advocate a greater focus on collaboration, especially interdisciplinary work with students in engineering and construction management programs. I'd like to say a few words in defense of traditional architectural education, centered on the design studio with coursework that emphasizes architectural thought and history.

    The aim of architecture school has never been to simulate practice or even, strange as it may seem, to specifically prepare students for the world of practice. "

    I think the latter statement is why we've seen almost an epic failure in the advancement of the architecture profession at large- the huge firms are doing well, it's the rest of us that struggle with the day to day mundane- and the misperception of us by the general public. 

    A curriculum based on theory alone results in turning out professional "artists of the built environment," aka "building designers."  Which is great; we need that.  However, not everyone will become a starchitect, sadly.

    In support of your theory-based stance, I would assert that "art is not a collaborative endeavor."  For example, I cannot imagine Leonardo di Vinci consulting anyone during the four years he took to paint the Mona Lisa- which is now kept behind thick glass in the Louvre museum with thousands of people flocking to see it everyday.

    And I doubt Michelangelo consulted with anyone on how to depict the stories of Genesis on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel; he did have help in constructing the scaffolding that he designed and he did receive help from his assistant who developed a better plaster that would not give way to mold.

    On collaboration, and in support of both your and Ryan Smith's essays, the great architect Zaha Hadid has said, in an interview available on Youtube, in effect, that "architecture is a team endeavor." 

    So, based on the above, I believe architecture schools do need to continue to teach the beautiful theory and history of architecture, merging it with the laws of physics, and to provide laboratories of collaborative engagement with related emerging professionals as they learn what makes buildings stand up and how to communicate using BIM and IPD technologies.  I think they should still freehand sketch, learn how to letter, use a t-square/parallel rule, build physical models using balsa wood, foam core and glue, and learn Revit, too.

    As I noted in my private reply to you, Mr. Sheer, your education is quite complete as you have 6 years in physics prior to 6 years in architecture (2 of which were under the direction of Peter Eisenman)- a total of 12 years of study prior to practice.  Isn't it easy for you to say that the architecture curriculum should remain as it is? :)

    In visiting various conventions and summits recently, I have heard several architects agreeing with your stance, however.  And this has been echoed by the Deans of some of the colleges saying that they are being told to teach the student how to "design poetry." 

    So, my question to the profession is this: how are interns going to learn what it takes to practice architecture?

    Who has time for an MBA or 3-5 years of trial and error in the IDP program (if one is lucky enough to secure work right away); and why reinvent the wheel every time a graduate gets his diploma?

    It seems to me that in this rapid paced society, we need equally rapid-paced sharing of technology and information, construction techniques, and how to construct good buildings as well as maintaining the art and beauty of architectural design.

    Therefore, I advocate a program similar to the medical profession- where IDP is elevated to a more elegant internship equal to that of a physician in training.  This would require firms to be more committed to the interns they hire, for architecture students to be more disciplined in studio (to then get selected by top firms for a more intense, well-paid internship program).  It is important to keep in mind, however, that even medical interns are often unintentionally "sleep deprived" and not necessarily given the red-carpet treatment due to the nature of the work. 

    There is no substitute for hard work in this effort.

    If it takes 12 years for a person to become a licensed Family Practitioner or other medical specialty, and as challenging as architecture is- and if true facts and records were revealed- I'd say that it takes almost the same time for one to become a licensed architect (10-12 years).

    The question remains, how best to teach the brave new architecture?

     



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    Tara Imani AIA
    Principal
    Tara Imani Designs, LLC
    Houston TX
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  • 4.  RE:A Reply to Ryan Smith

    Posted 08-24-2011 09:36 PM

    I didn't bother reading the entire lengthy response, but if the first paragraph sets the tone for the entire response, I would add that most states in the USA require practical experience, in addition to education prior to licensure. If the IDP were used as the program for the experience phase, all the collaborative and interactive concerns of the original poster should be addressed.

    The details of putting a building together, assembling drawings, and that sort of thing is already addressed at the techincal colleges, but at a much lower cost. I would screech if I had to pay $30,000 a year to learn to use BIM.

    The loss of advancement in architecture has less to do with education than it does with architects willing to sell their souls to the demands of the developers.

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    Charles Graham AIA
    Architect
    O'Neal, Inc.
    Greenville SC
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  • 5.  RE:A Reply to Ryan Smith

    Posted 08-25-2011 11:21 AM


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    Robert Ashley AIA
    DA Architects, LLC
    Summerville SC
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    There is a grand myth promised by an Architectural education. I've seen it. Intern architects think their third eye has opened and they will lead us to brave new expressions. Yet, those same soon to be architects can not put together a building. My last ( forever ) intern wanted to discuss the meaning of a wall yet did not know what a bar joist was! Hand drawing a building involved time to think and required mentoring. The ease of computers reduced the time for production and squeezing fees reduced the time for mentoring. The profession years ago assumed the role of continuing education. Times have changed yet the interns still need that seasoning. But we can't afford to do it.
    There will be a new model going forward. The profession will finally follow the lead of contractors. They no longer have a stable of trademen. Rather, they outsource. There will be firms offering to produce our documents. They will do it faster, better and for fixed costs. It might even be offshore. Our firms will be comprised of a older core of seasoned architects with fewer openings for the puppy dogs. 
    The schools will continue to pump out the grand myth and parent will wonder what they paid for.





  • 6.  RE:A Reply to Ryan Smith

    Posted 08-26-2011 11:25 AM


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    Douglas Elting AIA
    Visions in Architecture
    Lincoln NE
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    Technology has profoundly changed the way architecture is communicated to society. The idea that a technical college will provide a labor source of draftspeople to put buildings together went out the door with the advent of Building Information Modeling. There is no future need for draftsmen or red-lines. The days of an intern sitting at the feet of an experienced master are gone. Today's young architects have grown up in a three dimensional world. They are capable of translating their thoughts into three dimensional models with embedded intelligence and dynamic, transparent data streams that transmit data to integrated project teams and is archived for asset management. The problem is, they can't keep the rain out. Society will not support architects who don't know how to build buildings. It has been the case throughout history and is still today, the profession demands that the designer of the building works within the technical medium to transmit his or her ideas. The profession demands a person that is not being produced by academia and cannot be economically produced by the profession. This leaves a void that will be filled by others to the detriment of the profession of architecture and society. 
    The problem is seldom with our young, talented architects. The problem is with traditionalists who cannot comprehend the future of architecture. You have to know where you are going before you can determine how to get there.







  • 7.  RE:A Reply to Ryan Smith

    Posted 08-29-2011 01:21 AM

    Then, how do you explain Gehry?
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    Charles Graham AIA
    Architect
    O'Neal, Inc.
    Greenville SC
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  • 8.  RE:A Reply to Ryan Smith

    Posted 08-31-2011 09:16 AM

    with all this discussion, we seem to forget that computers do not build buildings, at some point the "DESIGN" needs to be translated and explained to people, so there will always be a need for 'draftsmen', interns, cad experts, renderers, offshore or onshore production houses, specification experts, (and lawyers).   The great thing about our field is there are so many avenues to pursue one's passion from masterplanning to door stops.


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    Leonard Sciarra AIA
    Architect
    Gensler
    Chicago IL
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  • 9.  RE:A Reply to Ryan Smith

    Posted 08-31-2011 01:53 PM
    I have to disagree somewhat, with the last sentiment.

    Yes, design is important. That's the point of the work, isn't it?

    However, because of the evolution in how design and construction is being expected to be accomplished/delivered/executed and the tools/technology available to do them, I think it is getting easier to go from idea, in one's head, to a virtual prototype that can be manipulated, explored, data mined, dissected, and used for presentation, fabrication, and management.

    In this world it is important for students to understand how to use the new tools of the trade, as well as the different processes needed to get the most out of the tools and provide more, better, faster. THE DAYS OF THE DRAFTSMAN ARE GONE! There, I said it. Where you call them draftsmen, draftspersons, or CAD jockey, the point is that they are rightfully being marginalized by these new tools and processes because they are an extra layer and can't contribute enough design expertise or construction knowledge fast enough to make their roles make sense.

    Today, a two-person architectural team, with the right tools, procedures, relationships, and communications can do the $20 million it might have taken a team of 12, in a larger firm, to accomplish in the same time, with less effort and more efficiency. That is powerful. That is gicing more power back to the architect, being able to take ideas, concepts, and make them work, to a high degree of sophistication, without so many layers and time needed to transverse those layers. Documentation, presentation, coordination - they are all easier for fewer people to  do today because of the technology and processes available (BIM).

    We need to be teaching this to students and future professionals. It isn't about design VERSUS technology, it's about the best design supported by the best technology, processes, and knowledge of building. Like the false debate of theory vs. practice (they are not mutually exclusive; good practice comes from good, tested, sound theoretical foundations), design in this day and age requires the grasp of technology, very powerful sophisticated technology, as if it were another pen/pencil in a designer's pocket. No more, no less.


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    Jeffrey Ouellette, Assoc. AIA
    BIM Specialist
    Nemetschek Vectorworks, Inc.
    Columbia MD
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  • 10.  RE:A Reply to Ryan Smith

    Posted 08-31-2011 08:13 PM
    I'd like to add some comments generally in support of Mr. Ouellette.  He's coming at the problem from the Intern end of the profession, while I'm coming at it from the nearly 3 decades of being licensed end.

    I've recently started working with BIM, Revit to be precise, and will not go back to 2D programs if I can ever help it.  Why?  Not only is it faster, but it has much of the technology already embedded into it.  With the greater and greater demands coming from contractors and building departments for assembly drawings - not design drawings - having this technology already embedded into the documents is a very valuable commodity.

    Bad news for interns - with BIM I need less staff.  As I put the model together, floor plans, elevations, sections and schedules are being assembled at the same time.  It even has a quick wireframe 3D model to refer to, and I can take that model and render it.

    Even worse news for interns - architecture is a knowledge based business, and most of you come out of Universities having a serious dearth of the knowledge needed in an architecture office.  I imagine a lot of E&O insurance claims start with an intern being given a simple design task, only to find they didn't understand all the nuances of the ADA.  (And shame on the people that were supposed to be supervising them).

    A lot of law firms work on an "up or out" principle, and I think architecture firms will migrate to that as well.  Interns will be hired - and trained - in the hope that one day they can reach associate status in the firm.  Some will make it, some won't, but the class of "draftsman", a harbor of refuge for non-licensed practitioners, won't last long.

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    Klaus Steinke AIA
    Las Vegas NV
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  • 11.  RE:A Reply to Ryan Smith

    Posted 09-01-2011 08:55 AM
    Well, Mr Steinke, I've been an "intern" for 18 years... but that's another story and argument.

    My perspective is as a technology guru with a designer's heart and the soul of a craftsman (my father is a carpenter... no jokes intended or wanted).

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    Jeffrey Ouellette Assoc. AIA
    Project Architect
    Nemetschek Vectorworks, Inc.
    Columbia MD
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  • 12.  RE:A Reply to Ryan Smith

    Posted 09-01-2011 12:56 PM


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    Oza Bouchard AIA
    Morris Architects, Inc.
    Houston TX
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    There is a much bigger picture here, tied not only to BIM, but to how and why our profession is changing.

    Yes, BIM, and more specifically 3 dimension thinking/modeling has radically changed how we design and convey information, but the underlying problem still is "garbage-in, garbage-out". We have come to believe that BIM/3D modeling is going to solve all the system conflicts, make better designs and solve all our problems. Our interns, and yes even some of our seasoned professionals, actually believe the computer is going to do this automatically, and actually fix the problem. We are so caught up in what cool computer models we can build, and how much technical information we can turn into 1's and 0's, we have lost sight of who we are actually creating the drawings for...the contractors...those individuals, tradesmen and craftsmen that have to actually build it. Once we get past the design concepts, killer presentations, photo realistic models and computer generated images, the only group we are then creating the documents for are those building it. Our construction documents are "instruction manuals" on how to put a particular building together...in finite detail. And this is where we are falling down and failing.

    Don't believe me? Then count the number of RFI's, supplemental instructions, clarifications and revisions that get recorded on a project which often hundreds, and even thousands. Yes, projects are more complicated and technically complex, but that is all the more reason to prepare better documents, and clearer, more accurate information for those building it.

    We, as a profession, have let our interns down in a monumental way. We are no longer teaching them how a building goes together, and more importantly why each little component is important, and how they all tie together. In fact we actually have a whole generation of practicing architects that not only don't know all the intricacies of how a building actually gets built, but they are passing this lack of information along to our interns.

    BIM is not just "Building Information Modeling"...it is supposed to be "Better Information Management". As architects, we are supposed to be trained to think 3 dimensionally. In our minds eye, we see what others don't, and that is why we create the documents, and information to get what we envision transferred from our minds to the physical world.

     







  • 13.  RE:A Reply to Ryan Smith

    Posted 09-01-2011 12:54 AM

    With the advent of smart software like Autodesk Architecture and Revit, almost all of the drudgery of drafting is gone. There is no longer a need for drafters to fill in schedules or spend hours upon hours merely drafting the design of someone else. In fact, I have not seen a drafter in this field for at least 10 years.

    With the smarter software, it is actually more cost effective for architects and designers to perform their own work. Nor more "red to black" drafing. The software begs for intelligent decisions as it's being used.

    Does anyone still dictate letters to a secretary?

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    Charles Graham AIA
    Architect
    O'Neal, Inc.
    Greenville SC
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  • 14.  RE:A Reply to Ryan Smith

    Posted 09-01-2011 08:58 AM
    The technology is bigger than any single vendor's proposed solutions. The technology is only a piece, serving the processes and intentions. Architects should be warier about technology marketing and more skeptical of "all-in-one" solutions.

    Look at the bigger technology world out there, and you'll see what I mean:

    http://www.buildingsmart.com/
    http://bit.ly/gflnMW


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    Jeffrey Ouellette Assoc. AIA
    BIM Specialist
    Nemetschek Vectorworks, Inc.
    Columbia MD
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  • 15.  RE:A Reply to Ryan Smith

    Posted 09-02-2011 09:47 AM

    Are we going to assume that the inventory of old building is just going to be torn down for new buildings that are easy to model?  Every year when the subscription rolls around we have the discussion with the vendor and Autodesk to decide if we should make the switch to Revit.  Each year the answer comes back to us that no we are better off staying with AutoCad for Architecture.  Not because of the software cost or training or learning curve but the time required to build models of the space.  .  The bulk of our work are small remodeling projects in old buildings.  The small projects each generate a small fee - the client has no interest in paying additional fee to model the space.  We can create a 2-D plan very quickly that work fine.  
    Hopefully there will always be a place for interns.  We turn over projects to the interns from day one - it is theirs and with guidance they do the design and detailing - doing is how we learn.  Yes at times we have to backup and redo something but I see that as my failure to teach and oversee what they are doing.  Are they ready to turn loose on the world righto out of school no way but with guidance they do fine.  My goal is to make them better than me rather they stay or move on.  That is part of being a professional.
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    Robert Carlson AIA
    Principal
    Carlson Design Team PC
    Iowa City IA
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  • 16.  RE:A Reply to Ryan Smith

    Posted 09-05-2011 11:21 AM

    The problem with software that does-it-all is that it removes the thinking-it-through process.  When standard details require little time for the designer to slap on the sheet, there is little ownership of what the detail is, how it works, and how it affects other aspects of the design.  This is especially bad for interns that are learning how a building goes together.  This video-gaming of the architecture process is removing many lessons interns should be getting at this stage in their career. 

    I'm not arguing against drawing standards or software that streamlines the process.   On the contrary, the quality control and streamlining aspect they offer is tremendous.  I am simply suggesting that the lessons that were removed by the automation process should be replaced.  Perhaps the in-office QC process needs to introduce a presentation where the intern explains the workings of how the details selected work and why they were selected.  Just a thought.

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    Ronald Semel AIA
    State Capital Outlay Cost Review Architect
    State of Virginia
    Glen Allen VA
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  • 17.  RE:A Reply to Ryan Smith

    Posted 09-06-2011 06:29 PM
    Many of these same comments were heard back in my early days in the profession. Except then it was in reference to pin bar drafting and mylar sheets that were run through the blueprint machine. If the intern is picking the details from standard sheets or standard CAD blocks with out some prior discussion from the registered members of the firm then we are doing something wrong from the start.

    As others have said before, CAD and BIM while two different approaches to producing the end product that allows Architecture to be built, they are only tools. Granted they are more sophisticated than our pencils, ink pins and Leroy sets, but it is still the brains that we are supposed to use that make them good or bad tools.

    In my time at college we were not graded on real world type drawings, they did not even offer a drafting class, drafting was what the Technology department was for. Learning to use the tools of our trades are just part of the education process that goes on in school and after we graduate. It is as important to teach the interns the office CAD standards as well as the office material standards. How many graduates know what a specifications book is, how many firms still generate their own specs, most now days use Master Spec or hire a specifications writing firm to do it for them.

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    Robert Woodhull AIA
    Principal
    Robert L. Woodhull, A.I.A. Architects
    Plano TX
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  • 18.  RE:A Reply to Ryan Smith

    Posted 09-07-2011 12:46 PM
    Ronald, I'm not sure what does-it-al software to which you refer. I have practiced model-based design and documentation for more than 15 years with VectorWorks, SketchUp, Revit and ArchiCAD and none of them automate building construction. They do a lot to coordinate views and streamline the document workflow, which is very welcome, but they don't put things together for you. I would say the process requires a lot more "thinking it through" than 2D drafting ever could.

    The reuse of stock details did not start with 3D design or BIM, or CAD before that, but with the copy machine. It's a lazy practice that says next to nothing about architectural software.

    As the digital tools get better and true 4D building simulation becomes the norm we'll all need to become more and more knowledgable about construction no matter our background or training. An import part of that is having the confidence to recognize what we don't know, and having the resources and acumen to seek out the best solutions.

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    Geoff Briggs Assoc. AIA
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  • 19.  RE:A Reply to Ryan Smith

    Posted 09-02-2011 11:12 AM


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    Robert Ashley AIA
    DA Architects, LLC
    Summerville SC
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    Hence the dilemma, where is the training for interns to be knowledgeable about construction. Unbuildable great designs sit in drawers. Hence my prior thought about the great myth of current architectural education. 







  • 20.  RE:A Reply to Ryan Smith

    Posted 09-02-2011 04:25 PM
    Guys: 

    There will always be a need to have people who know how to put a building together and how to put a set of documents that explain that.  However, non-degreed draftsmen have gone by the wayside long time ago.  The vast majority of people developing the BIM models which eventually show up as drawings are degreed architects.   That doesn't mean that they are only focused on the esthetics of a building, and not capable of detailing it.  It just means that their learning curve may be steeper, because the schools of architecture didn't really teach them this aspect of the practice.   And as a profession, we would be much better off if we embrace them, just like Medical Doctors embrace all sorts of specialists.
     
    What is not clear at all is whether these people will work in what today we call an "architectural practice" or they will work for an enterprise more closely connected with the delivery of the building (Design-Builder, CM, etc.).   If the latter happens, it will be a sad day for Architecture (with capital A), because we would have become building stylists, leaving the real work to others.  

    In our firm, we are doing everything we can to keep a broad view of the profession and to train our staff in all areas of the practice, from urban interventions to field visits and contract disputes.  I just wish these very talented young people had not been sold a pipe dream where all of them think they are going to become Frank Gehry.


    Gustavo Lima, AIA, LEED AP, CCCA
    Principal and Director of Construction Administration
    Cannon Design
    Buffalo, NY






  • 21.  RE:A Reply to Ryan Smith

    Posted 09-05-2011 01:17 PM
    Gustavo, I'm with you right up to the point that you said, "If the latter happens [degreed architects becoming Design-Builders, CMs, etc.], it will be a sad day for Architecture (with capital A), because we would have become building stylists, leaving the real work to others." I don't follow you. I would think that degreed architects taking those roles from degreed/experienced engineers and contractors would be received as a positive thing, rather than a negative thing. And I don't understand how the entry of architects into the construction world drains the construction expertise from design firms (if that's what you're trying to say). Can you help me understand your point of view better?

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  • 22.  RE:A Reply to Ryan Smith

    Posted 09-06-2011 01:04 AM
    I own an Architect Led Design-Build firm, and am myself a degreed and Licensed Architect with a background in structural engineering and a General Contractors license. I have to agree with Sean, in that Architects that are integrating their design experience with the construction of the building by being involved in Design-Build, etc. is a VERY GOOD thing...and a much needed extension of our expertise.

    There has long been disagreement between Architects and Contractors, along with finger pointing, catching the owner in the middle on issues that should be handled as a team, as regards the execution of the design and the construction of the building. This is precisely why I pursued getting my GC License...to avoid the finger pointing, miscommunication, bad feelings, etc...along with costly time extensions and cost overruns due to "unforseen conditions" that the contractor attributes to incomplete drawing sets...

    As architects, we complain that GC's are taking over the built environment and providing design services with less qualified people - so why wouldn't Architect-Led design-build firms be an enhancement to the design firm mentality? It gives us an opportunity to educate the next wave of Architects in not only how to design a building, but how to construct it as well, as we are then responsible for the whole ball of wax...

    Aloha.

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    Tonya Dale AIA
    Principal
    4D Designs LLC dba 4D Design-Build
    Kailua HI
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  • 23.  RE:A Reply to Ryan Smith

    Posted 08-29-2011 11:51 AM


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    Robert Ashley AIA
    DA Architects, LLC
    Summerville SC
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    1. Puppy dogs or dinosaurs who can put together a building can communicate with free hand sketches or 3D modeling. Bim or flat cadd is only a tool. Without construction knowledge, the choice of tool becomes a marginal discussion. The main issue is--->
    2. Architectural education has not kept up with the needs of the profession.

    ( I am a dino )